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The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by jurgenaut23 »

ElProlactin wrote: post #53
jurgenaut23 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything, AI has made it more difficult and challenging because every customer and investor is drowning in AI-generated collaterals, websites, etc. The situation is dire in the academic world, where both the applicants and the reviewers now rely so heavily on AI that both publishing and financing has turned into a lottery. I am positive this will settle down at some point, but the difference will always remain abo…

> If anything, AI has made it more difficult and challenging because every customer and investor is drowning in AI-generated collaterals, websites, etc. In many markets, yes. If you're a software buyer, for example, your inbox, LinkedIn, etc. is filled with AI-generated sales outreach. And you know it's AI. But keep in mind that there are tons of markets (think local services) where buyers aren't familiar with AI. Th…

I get it, but it is still more difficult to achieve differentiation from your less-skilled competitor in the short term, because they can simply slop their way through, at least until prospects realize that this is a bag of sh%t

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by Lionga »

edu wrote: post #38
rienbdj wrote: post #19

This feels like a “sell the shovels” move. Social media is full of “this one prompt to get rich quick”. It’s the new “one weird trick”.

Build a $1B startup. Make no mistakes. /s

"I will send you to jail if you fail" really makes it work all of the time

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by uxhacker »

hypfer wrote: post #6

Feels like a category error. It's a slide deck telling people what a product can do (that's a normal thing to release for a company), but the thing it tries to sell you on is building your own business based on their tool. Which makes no sense the way they sell it, because "founding a business" is no standard process that could be formalized in a way like that, nor does it make sense for society to have people foundi…

Their argument on page 10 is that now agentic coding reduces the effort of writing code there will be far more failures unless you validate the idea properly.

We are actually seeing that in that the number of apps on the app stores is increasing but usage is not increasing.

Some would argue that the right process will lead to the right results.

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by benfortuna »

weatherlite wrote: post #49
hypfer wrote: post #6

Feels like a category error. It's a slide deck telling people what a product can do (that's a normal thing to release for a company), but the thing it tries to sell you on is building your own business based on their tool. Which makes no sense the way they sell it, because "founding a business" is no standard process that could be formalized in a way like that, nor does it make sense for society to have people foundi…

I think a lot of founding is pretty much a commodity, e.g coming up with a viable idea and then implementing it has become rather easy now with these tools. The real barriers are access to capital and clients. From the startup I joined (I'm the 6th person) I see how much the founders personal connections are important. That indeed can't be commoditized yet. But the process of coming up with an idea and iterating on i…

It's a commodity in the same way that making music is a commodity (i.e. using production tools to make it sound good). But music today is so much more generic and boring than it used to be.

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by hypfer »

weatherlite wrote: post #49
hypfer wrote: post #6

Feels like a category error. It's a slide deck telling people what a product can do (that's a normal thing to release for a company), but the thing it tries to sell you on is building your own business based on their tool. Which makes no sense the way they sell it, because "founding a business" is no standard process that could be formalized in a way like that, nor does it make sense for society to have people foundi…

I think a lot of founding is pretty much a commodity, e.g coming up with a viable idea and then implementing it has become rather easy now with these tools. The real barriers are access to capital and clients. From the startup I joined (I'm the 6th person) I see how much the founders personal connections are important. That indeed can't be commoditized yet. But the process of coming up with an idea and iterating on i…

You seem to be mistaking the "rules" of the ZIRP SV nonsense bubble for the rules of reality.

Understandably so, but still.

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by Planktonne »

hypfer wrote: post #6

Feels like a category error. It's a slide deck telling people what a product can do (that's a normal thing to release for a company), but the thing it tries to sell you on is building your own business based on their tool. Which makes no sense the way they sell it, because "founding a business" is no standard process that could be formalized in a way like that, nor does it make sense for society to have people foundi…

It makes sense if you think of 'founder' as an identity like 'influencer', rather than 'someone actually seriously founding a business'; just as with influencers, some people will make a lot of money doing it for real, but many, many more will post enthusiastically on social media, living the aesthetic.

A lot of people already treat being a founder/entrepreneur as who they are, not what they do--witness the endless tide of LinkedIn posting about hustle culture, divorced from reality. This is an extension of startup chic.

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by bdcravens »

hypfer wrote: post #6

Feels like a category error. It's a slide deck telling people what a product can do (that's a normal thing to release for a company), but the thing it tries to sell you on is building your own business based on their tool. Which makes no sense the way they sell it, because "founding a business" is no standard process that could be formalized in a way like that, nor does it make sense for society to have people foundi…

The same is true of building a startup based on Rails or React.

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by zero_ »

Planktonne wrote: post #66
hypfer wrote: post #6

Feels like a category error. It's a slide deck telling people what a product can do (that's a normal thing to release for a company), but the thing it tries to sell you on is building your own business based on their tool. Which makes no sense the way they sell it, because "founding a business" is no standard process that could be formalized in a way like that, nor does it make sense for society to have people foundi…

It makes sense if you think of 'founder' as an identity like 'influencer', rather than 'someone actually seriously founding a business'; just as with influencers, some people will make a lot of money doing it for real, but many, many more will post enthusiastically on social media, living the aesthetic. A lot of people already treat being a founder/entrepreneur as who they are, not what they do--witness the endless t…

this is well said. and to me this is crazy and sad at the same time.

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by swiftcoder »

kubb wrote: post #10

I’m pretty sure the one place people will never believe AI can be applied is “being a founder”. There’s just too much invested, in terms of beliefs and money into the idea that founders are special and therefore deserve seven-eight figures off of the capital pumped into their unprofitable products. You’ll see it here in comments. People will defend A”I” applied to software engineering wherever (not) possible, but bui…

You know, I've been fairly convinced we could automate CEOs away since... ChatGPT 3.5 or thereabouts?

Re: The founder's playbook: Building an AI-native startup

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Post by bdcravens »

Oras wrote: post #22

AI has changed the build for sure, it is a lot easier to build now, a lot easier to practice multiple copywriting ideas, do market research ... etc. There is something that will never change for being a founder, you need to sell, and for that you need network and credibility. It was never about the building, its all about the selling. AI has not changed that.

> ... its all about the selling. AI has not changed that.

Nor did the web, or mobile, or any other innovation. That doesn't mean you can't build your business around an innovation.

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