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Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by metalliqaz »

polairscience wrote: post #40

And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

Hear, hear!

Mozilla seems to have a string of bad leadership but when compared to Alphabet, I don't see how there can be any choice. Use Firefox or one of the niche privacy focused forks.

My uBlock Origin works perfectly well.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ramijames wrote: post #8

Use Firefox. It's an excellent browser and needs your support.

If you look at the spending of the Mozilla Foundation they most certainly do not need our support they need to spend their resources on their browser instead of frivolities.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by haritha-j »

i keep hoping google will stop giving me reasons to switch ,because i can't be bothered to move all my passwords and stuff over, but every year they keep making it harder.

Likewise, I desperately want to stay on windows because of anticheat, but every year they keep making it harder.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by rpdillon »

neves wrote: post #4

Will Brave, which is based in Chromium, still block ads? Since they are changing Chromium, I don't think so.

I mentioned this above, but Brave both includes its own ad blocking engine and has also added support for the MV2 version of UBo to the core engine.

https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by skeledrew »

esskay wrote: post #20
ramijames wrote: post #8

Use Firefox. It's an excellent browser and needs your support.

Just a shame its a tiny bit slower than chromium based browsers still (the ui, not the web page rendering), and you dont have to take my word for it, a web search for something like 'firefox sluggish compared to chrome' will back this up too as I've tried switching multiple times but always end up back on a chromium variant because the firefox ui just doesn't feel like an upgrade. Personally I've just given up trying…

> a tiny bit slower

And that automatically disqualifies it? I find that wild. I've been using Firefox since it was at v2 I think, and never once considered switching for some speed gain. I actually use Vivaldi on the side sometimes for sites that aren't very Firefox-with-my-extensions-friendly, and find no difference in performance.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by vablings »

haritha-j wrote: post #65

i keep hoping google will stop giving me reasons to switch ,because i can't be bothered to move all my passwords and stuff over, but every year they keep making it harder. Likewise, I desperately want to stay on windows because of anticheat, but every year they keep making it harder.

Make the switch now! Gaming on Linux is really only getting better every year with much hard work from valve.

Outside of developers opting out pretty much every single game works out of the box. I value my limited leisure time and to be able to just jump on my computer and start playing without any annoying nags about windows updates or restart this and strange unexplainable issues.

Move all of your passwords and logins too!

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by LiamPowell »

qnleigh wrote: post #64

Naive question: will it not be possible for ad blockers to upgrade to ManifestV3? Is there something about it that makes ad blocking much harder. What does Manifest actually do?

Most ad blockers do already use MV3, uBlock Origin is the only one still using V2 as far as I know.

There are some drawbacks to V3, however none prevent creating an effective ad blocker, as demonstrated by the fact that many exist. Though saying that doesn't make for nearly as effective clickbait...

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

rpdillon wrote: post #58
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #16

Firefox is the only sane option. It’s not perfect but it’s better than the alternatives. Chromium forks are at the mercy of Google doing everything they can to stop ad blocking. Firefox forks are often maintain by just “some dude”. If they decide they don’t want to maintain it anymore, it’s done. If everyone switches to a fork and then Firefox goes away because nobody is using the browser anymore, it’s done.

Brave has an interesting approach where they have added core support for four key MV2 extensions to the core of the browser engine, bypassing MV3 entirely. > Update: As of v1.81, we host the following Manifest V2 (MV2) extensions on Brave’s backend: AdGuard, uBO, uMatrix, NoScript. These extensions operate independently from the equivalent versions that are currently present on the Chrome Web Store, and have to be do…

I just don’t see this being sustainable long term when you’re upstream is doing everything they can to sabotage you. This is a huge maintenance burden for Brave and eventually there might be a breaking change introduced by Google that just makes this approach no longer tenable.

Mozilla is extremely friendly to content blockers, and does everything they can to make sure they are well supported as first class citizens.

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