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Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by enigmo »

kqgnkqgn wrote: post #24
UnlockedSecrets wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this in reference to something that should be linked for those not alive or in the know at the time?

I'm not sure if it was entirely true, but there are stories that after Microsoft bought Hotmail in the mid-90's, they quickly attempted to move them from FreeBSD (?) to Windows NT. But it failed miserably, and they went back to the original stack for another ~decade.

the FreeBSD migration didn’t take that long - iirc this was the frontend migration to an IIS ISAPI.

the Solaris bits (storage and routing tables) took far longer - and again iirc the frontend had been rewritten in C# before all the Sun hardware had been decommissioned.

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by collabs »

jeffrallen wrote: post #51
theojulienne wrote: post #38

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They were originally on their own datacenters + huge amounts of burst and ancillary stuff in AWS, the internal push to move away from "the competitor's cloud" after the acquisition was huge and entirely stupid. I'm ex-GitHub and was one of the annoying people constantly saying GitHub should only move where it was provably the best option for GitHub - the third best major cloud provider is likely never it on merits al…

In the early 2000's they did the same dumb thing to WebTV: forced a move from Solaris to Windows, that completely wrecked the engineering team's velocity and motivation.

They did the same thing to Hotmail as well. It was fine running on FreeBSD/Solaris. Microsoft didn't need to switch to windows for no good reason.

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by ryanmerket »

palmotea wrote: post #44
ilreb wrote: post #37

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> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48440448 this had >300 upvotes with a link from runtimewire.com and you didn't even criticize it then. why now? There are so many bad and false assumptions baked into your short comment, it's hard to begin. For instance: in what world does someone have provide justification for their critique of an AI-written website, because they didn't happen to respond to some previous post?

almost every news website is written primarily by AI these days with a human editor to review...

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by ffsm8 »

plaguuuuuu wrote: post #52
kuschku wrote: post #36

What kind of vibecoded website is this? - the worst infinite scroll I've ever seen making it impossible to access the footer - the title tag doesn't seem to work properly (just shows the URL in the tab title, on Chrome and Firefox) - 2007-style keyword stuffing in meta keywords - the entire page is client-side react with a completely empty body? The agency that built it even proudly states on their website that they…

I've read more than a handful of AI-generated articles on HN recently. The last one even had a fake author with a fake face. despite the site insisting it had human editors and reviews. The web property was created by a marketing/AI agency from (AFAIK) a European country with zero employees credentialed to edit hard science news articles, also zero employees with English names and faces like the supposed author. The…

The dead Internet theory is long established at this point

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by albert_e »

kuschku wrote: post #36

What kind of vibecoded website is this? - the worst infinite scroll I've ever seen making it impossible to access the footer - the title tag doesn't seem to work properly (just shows the URL in the tab title, on Chrome and Firefox) - 2007-style keyword stuffing in meta keywords - the entire page is client-side react with a completely empty body? The agency that built it even proudly states on their website that they…

I "love" infinite scroll on websites where important links like finding a way to contact customer support for help is only in the footer that you can never reach.

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by anonymousiam »

TurdF3rguson wrote: post #55
inopinatus wrote: post #28

If there’s one thing that surprised me at AWS during my time there - over a decade ago now - that I was not clearly expecting in advance, it was the scale and competence of the units fulfilling the colossal and unceasing growth in capacity demand. This led me to reconsider Amazon as a whole, and I still think of it basically as a logistics firm, with the shop and the public cloud merely a monetisation thereof.

I wonder how that translates to Blue Origin and how they managed to be so completely outclassed by SpaceX.

SpaceX had been doing their thing for a while before Blue Origin got started. It seems to me that Bezos never wanted to try to catch up with Musk. His approach is not "move fast and break things", but instead more old-school (try to get things done right as best you can, and only test when necessary). Despite the gap, Bezos is slowly gaining ground. He's flying passengers and he's winning government contracts. The USG likes to have a second source for everything, and they're fed up with Northrop, Boeing, Lockheed, ULA (who have all absorbed some of the other space and launch startups). So Bezos is capitalizing on the US government's desire to have real competition, and a second source for launch (besides ULA).

There's also this funny outcome from the SpaceX IPO: https://x.com/ICannot_Enough/status/2065449141946253390

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by ryanmerket »

kuschku wrote: post #36

What kind of vibecoded website is this? - the worst infinite scroll I've ever seen making it impossible to access the footer - the title tag doesn't seem to work properly (just shows the URL in the tab title, on Chrome and Firefox) - 2007-style keyword stuffing in meta keywords - the entire page is client-side react with a completely empty body? The agency that built it even proudly states on their website that they…

No agency. Just a one man shop. What kind of vibecoded website is this? It's a Replit built site along wtih my 20 years of experience building websites from scratch. It was launched this month, so it's a bit rough around the edges, but we're off to a great start.

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by hvb2 »

anonymousiam wrote: post #66
TurdF3rguson wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how that translates to Blue Origin and how they managed to be so completely outclassed by SpaceX.

SpaceX had been doing their thing for a while before Blue Origin got started. It seems to me that Bezos never wanted to try to catch up with Musk. His approach is not "move fast and break things", but instead more old-school (try to get things done right as best you can, and only test when necessary). Despite the gap, Bezos is slowly gaining ground. He's flying passengers and he's winning government contracts. The US…

> Despite the gap, Bezos is slowly gaining ground. He's flying passengers and he's winning government contracts.

He's flying passengers? They stopped new shepherd and that was suborbital to begin with. You can't compare the 2 at all. Getting people to orbit is much much harder than 'a hop'.

On the government contracts, yes they did get some. Some through lawyers though and they still have to show that they can actually deliver. SpaceX has to deliver on HLS as well, but the ISS has one American ride up and that's crew dragon.

Re: Microsoft turns to AWS as GitHub faces AI capacity crunch

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Post by palmotea »

ryanmerket wrote: post #63
palmotea wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48440448 this had >300 upvotes with a link from runtimewire.com and you didn't even criticize it then. why now? There are so many bad and false assumptions baked into your short comment, it's hard to begin. For instance: in what world does someone have provide justification for their critique of an AI-written website, because they didn't happen to respond to some previous post?

almost every news website is written primarily by AI these days with a human editor to review...

> almost every news website is written primarily by AI these days with a human editor to review...

Source? Or is that just self-justifying speculation?

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