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Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

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Re: Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

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post #26

what, so you go and bomb them then now u pay them hahaha

If you like those kind of "jokes", also note that

-- it does not seem that those who had to bear the collateral damages of the whole action (e.g. economic loss, diplomatic loss) will be paid;

-- there have been hints that some not involved in the action (hit by the retaliation) also paid (to appease the retaliator).

Re: Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

#62
post #29

It's surprising how this administration consistently keeps rolling 1s on a D20.

what's surprising is that people think 1) they give a shit, and 2) that they're not 100% manipulated by foreign influence. Israel and Russia completely own MAGA. Every decision they make re: foreign policy looks like it is straight out of Foundations of Geopolitics or Netanyahu's fever dreams.

The point may be beyond the surprise and towards actions towards accountability.

Edit: and more than that, towards the defense of alternative political and geopolitical models. (Actual examples redacted to keep a calmer water surface.) (Already 'alternative' seems so preposterous a term for the context - as if "rape" vs "invite to dinner" could be covered by the term.)

Re: Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

#63

USA has a weird concept about the future as it were something already known, so they may declare now what will happen, even if the actual future depends on other agents. From TFA: > U.S. officials have said Iran agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz permanently without tolls, while Tehran said the agreement is to allow free passage for the next 60 days during another period of negotiations led by Vance. > When asked…

That's not the US, that's just how you communicate when you're projecting your political goals.

Re: Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

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> reconstruction fund Literal reparations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations > War reparations are compensation payments made after a war by one side to the other. They are intended to cover damage or injury inflicted during a war. Another war lost by the USA, despite its infinite military supremacy. Weird. One observation that comes to mind is that a lot of people in the world realize that the interests…

As an American, this whole thing has been so disappointing. I donate to candidates who both oppose this stuff and win, so I think I'm doing my part well, and I think in two years we'll improve things. But in the meantime I'm sorry!

Re: Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

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> reconstruction fund Literal reparations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations > War reparations are compensation payments made after a war by one side to the other. They are intended to cover damage or injury inflicted during a war. Another war lost by the USA, despite its infinite military supremacy. Weird. One observation that comes to mind is that a lot of people in the world realize that the interests…

As an American, this whole thing has been so disappointing. I donate to candidates who both oppose this stuff and win, so I think I'm doing my part well, and I think in two years we'll improve things. But in the meantime I'm sorry!

I know I know. I think most people wouldn't blame any one individual American voter. This specific issue isn't even left vs right in any case.

Re: Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American, this whole thing has been so disappointing. I donate to candidates who both oppose this stuff and win, so I think I'm doing my part well, and I think in two years we'll improve things. But in the meantime I'm sorry!

I know I know. I think most people wouldn't blame any one individual American voter. This specific issue isn't even left vs right in any case.

I never expect to be blamed, but I do want to publicly remind folks that we're not all blowhards.

And I don't think the left would have gone this far. But who knows.

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