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Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#61

Seems like it doesn't apply to older machines, I have AX41-NVMe, it's not on the list, I also didn't get any notification from them (and they usually send some) - no need to panic if you're longterm customer.

I hope it stays like that for a while, but I suspect it won't.

Advertised prices for my setup are now roughly 2x what I'm currently paying.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#62
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The new prices are here: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi... (However, Hetzner did an earlier price increase 38 days ago. HN's submission logic sends posting the url to the previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48306066 )

The price of server auctions seem pretty much the same as before: https://www.hetzner.com/sb so if you don't need the latest hardware, Hetzner is still and outstanding deal.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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I was signing up for Hetzner years ago and it asked me to upload my passport to use their service. At that same time, I was reading about this story about WireCard. It was like Stripe for Europe and worth billions. Turns out it was run by a Russian spy network and was all a sham. That video alleged Germany’s bureaucracy is filled with Russian agents and this can be traced back to the East/West Berlin days. To save a…

I mean it's not great that Hetzner require this but it's a bit of a jump to assume that means they have links to Russian intelligence. This kind of thing is pretty common in Germany; not every private company is captured by Russian intelligence

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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I start to think that AI might be a net negative on the economy. It consumes an enormous amount of resources, just to keep doing what we did before. Laying off people also doesn't reduce cost as much as it might look like. There is a lot of hidden cost shared by everyone (also the companies that did the lay offs are hit by them). Unemployed people still have to eat and pay rent, and someone is paying for that. They s…

> I start to think that AI might be a net negative on the economy. It consumes an enormous amount of resources, just to keep doing what we did before Outside of HN, this is all people are seeing. Gamers in particular aren't seeing a benefit. They are being priced out of their hobby. The recent DDLS 5 meme is what people think of when they hear AI.

Even inside the software bubble it's debatable if there is a significant benefit on productivity (judged by total cost).

But even pure software companies are hit by higher hardware prices. Their customers need to buy expensive hardware and have less budget left to spend on software.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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I was doing the same here, trying to set up a Hertzner account. Getting away from US companies and buying European and all that. But after I had made the account (and wasting a lot of time on back and forth with their buggy sign-up flow), I got told that I needed to upload a picture of my passport to do anything. Fuck no. I too decided to stick with DO.

Nice work from DO marketing team! Prices are completely not comparable and Hetzner was fighting scammers and kiddies, because low prices worked like a magnet for those. Russian spies? WOW, the earth got really flat these days. Seeing what US is doing with citizens and private companies I would love some Russian spy to be interested in exactly mine, boring passport.

I encourage you to read about WireCard. It wasn’t just a normal sham company, it was able to fool auditing firms (one of the big 4) and the executives got away with it and are in Russia hiding. I’m trying to dig up the video also I can link it. There is no connection between WireCard and Hetzner outside of both being German companies.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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post #61

Seems like it doesn't apply to older machines, I have AX41-NVMe, it's not on the list, I also didn't get any notification from them (and they usually send some) - no need to panic if you're longterm customer.

I hope it stays like that for a while, but I suspect it won't. Advertised prices for my setup are now roughly 2x what I'm currently paying.

Seems the driver is DDR5 memory, DDR4 servers are not affected from my quick look.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#67

It really is an absolute massive jump. Have no clue what's going on in the back to warrant a 3x increase... 25-50%, sure.. but 3x is wild.

The AI bubble has increased the prices of nand and ram by a factor of 4, so a 3x increase seems reasonable. Companies that are not big enough to have long term contracts with ram/nand vendors have been hit really, really hard by this.

It's a bit higher than 4 now.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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>Was this applied retrospectively to existing customers They are quite good at costs remaining predictable. However, a few years back they cut the low-end hosts 1Gbps unlimited data transfer down to a 20GiB/month cap, and wanted everyone to go full cloud/retard to fully leverage the hardware infrastructure. If you serve large files, a CDN may have a very narrow use case where the budgets make sense. If you are alread…

> If you serve large files, a CDN may have a very narrow use case where the budgets make sense. If you are already pushing 23 TiB/month, than cloud providers are usually not work the effort. Some rent colocation rack space. =3 Unfortunately I'm needing to run a lot of batch compute jobs (for which the hyperscalers are just insanely expensive - even to have a machine that outclasses a nice laptop becomes silly very ra…

Have you looked at used servers from eBay / bargain hardware / ETB tech etc?

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#69

This is such disappointing news. I was planning on migrating some of our workloads to hetzner specifically to take advantage of the AX162 pricing which was incredibly competitive. Does anyone else have any suggestions for competitive pricing for this kind of thing (e.g. batch jobs)? Was this applied retrospectively to existing customers?

From memory, OVH and Scaleway are similar to Hetzner

Hetzner is actually somewhat reliable, and OVH is not.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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True but this is probably because now they have much more demand as other competitors got to expensive and now people are going for the smaller ones even with low service levels

I don't think any VPS provider has come close to raising their prices this much. There's absolutely not enough people flocking to Hetzner to justify this.

But VPS providers share the same hardware and overprovision. They don’t need to add new hardware every time a new customer signs up.

If you buy a dedicated server at Hetzner, you actually need immediate hardware.

Many VPS providers also just resell Hetzner, OVH or other dedicated servers so they won’t increase the price until their own provider does.

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