ObRef: Automated fresh pizza vending machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_lxiU8eLM
World's First Kitchen-Free, Robot-Run Fast-Food Restaurant
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More importantly, how will people learn basic job skills, like "show up on time" and "do what you're told" if all the traditional first jobs are automated?
Without basic jobs, "basic job" skills are irrelevant. Plenty of jobs don't have the two rules you mention.
Plenty of jobs don't have set schedules or require you to march lockstep. But even CEOs of tech companies can't say to potential clients, "sorry I missed that meeting and didn't call, I wasn't feeling good..."
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I disagree with selling sex being morally in a grey area, but minors are already banned or prevented from taking many (most?) dangerous jobs that nobody have a moral issue with (say taxi driving).
I disagree with selling sex being morally in a grey area You didn't specify, do you think it is a morally white area? or a morally black area? Better yet let's move away from colors. Do you think sex trade is immoral? I'm genuinely curious because it wasn't obvious form reading your comment - and I'm not sure I have strong feelings one way other the other and so it would seem to me to be the epitome of a "gray area"
I don't think there is anything wrong with people willing selling any kind of service, sex included.
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Nobody can make money at all if they refuse to think about how they can create value and then do it. In other words, if you expect your life to continue as it has always done, it won't.
It's not the people on this board who need to worry. What responsibility does society have for those (let's say.. IQ 75) who are incapable of this?
Thinking doesn't mean finding the theory of everything. It can be as simple as taking a walk and see what people who have money are currently doing that you could do for them.
Cleaning lawns, walking their dog (scales wonderfully, as you can walk with more than one dog at a time), buying their groceries for them (easily worth it, as you would only buy exactly what was on the list and not 'hey this is cheap') and it scales reasonably.
That list is by no means exhaustive, btw. Just of the top of my head.
None of these can be done by robots anytime soon, none of these require a high school education.
Yes I have some idea of how though this is -- my granddad started working as unskilled labor at age 14, and he raised both him and my grandmother from homeless near orphans to living in a (small) house with a car and in the process raising two kids to have families of their own.
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#65Interesting, you don't think of Krispy Kreme as making robot donuts. Curious that Macdonald's, with so much careful specification of all processes, hasn't done this, at all. e.g. fry/remove/salt fries. (though their standard coffee is mostly automated). Macdonald's is so well-placed, I can only assume it isn't actually cost-effective for them. Maybe it's worth it for Momentum, for the PR? Or, by starting from scratch…
McDonald's does automate their production processes to a large extent - the fries machine requires very little human oversight apart from taking it out when done.
The trouble with robotics is that it's expensive and time consuming to scale, and deals poorly with variance, at least for now.
If your McDonald's is a smash hit and you're experiencing much higher than expected traffic, you can scale horizontally by quickly hiring more workers. All of the tricky bits of producing the product (e.g., correct portioning, correct frying, correct cooking) are already automated, so this labor force is easy to bring up to speed.
Compare with a robotic McDonald's, where you'd freak out, order a new burger-maker-matic from your vendor, and wait 6 months for it to arrive.
Or perhaps worse, you have a maximum capacity of 1000 burger/hour, scaled for your lunch-time rush, and those machines are idling the rest of the time. In a normal human environment you just bring in fewer people during the off hours - but with a robotic work force you are always scaled for peak demand. In businesses that are periodically peak-y this is incredibly inefficient.
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#66HOLY Old Georgie, it's PAPA SONG'S.
Re: World's First Kitchen-Free, Robot-Run Fast-Food Restaurant
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the people on this board who need to worry. What responsibility does society have for those (let's say.. IQ 75) who are incapable of this?
Thinking doesn't mean finding the theory of everything. It can be as simple as taking a walk and see what people who have money are currently doing that you could do for them. Cleaning lawns, walking their dog (scales wonderfully, as you can walk with more than one dog at a time), buying their groceries for them (easily worth it, as you would only buy exactly what was on the list and not 'hey this is cheap') and it s…
Your grandfather, while not educated, likely had his wits about him.
Cleaning lawns often requires average intelligence. If I have to tell the person common sense things and basically supervise the work (people with this intelligence often don't adapt well to change, the kind of change required for each customer) and will tend to be slower and require tasks to be broken down for them. You don't want to have someone completely break down when you send them to the store and the brand you specify isn't available.
From people I've seen, they're already barely functioning in jobs. As the job market gets tighter, many of these people have been pushed out. Some have had advocates able to argue them on to disability, but others haven't.
You could do this. I could do this. But you're overestimating the capacity of 10% of Americans, perhaps as much as 15-20% of Americans.
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There's a psychological and human aspect that some deem as positive that you are overlooking. While some shun away from the human experience, it's refreshing to head to an In-N-out burger and have well-paid smiling faces take your order and serve you delicious food. Sure you could automate that kid, but while trying not to be sappy, that's another face you get to see during the day amidst a traditional day filled wit…
Walmart has greeters. In and Out can always have same.
The argument was for well-paid employees. Those greeters certainly don't fall in that category.
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This is terrible attitude, and it greatly devalues necessary work. Yes, if you are an engineer, you see stocking grocery store shelves as a technical problem to be solved, but other folks look at it as a way to make a rather meager living. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone can do white collar labor for a reasonable middle class salary. Don't get me wrong, I think some work certainly could be automated, but at…
That's not my point at all. I'm saying if someone can't do intellectual work, get them to do something that uses other skills. But let's make that something useful, rather than something we could automate away.
I'm saying if someone can't do intellectual work
So anyone who can't do intellectual work is fucking idiot?