I don't envy the interns whose job is to explain things to the EU leadership.
Which internships are better? Explaining things to the US leadership? Or to the Chinese leadership?
That's a pretty tight hair to walk on.
EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision
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#62Hopefully it will prompt more EU investment into ai and hopefully EU will have something good in the future. EU will maybe never be like the US and maybe the US will be stronger and richer than the EU... But us EU people have nice weather and lots of good things like small cars and bike lanes and soccer teams and socker teams and suckerteams and lots and lots of windmills and sea windmills small tiny farms that are s…
Don’t forget Deutsche Bahn, and the best railway system in whole world
LOL....I just went trough the experience of trying to buy a bus ticket, at the Machines of DB in Munich Airport. I challenged two German citizens, who were kind enough to help, and they could not manage.
I think a YT Video about it would take on millions on views. Oh and the bus,no cards...debit or credit...only cash...oh wait...only coins.
German precision...the fairytale adults tell mechanics.
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If there is a divorce the very obvious reason is Trump
But let's be clear about this - 50% of the voting population of the United States have been giving him their support for a decade now.
His conviction for sexual assault, attracted the votes of 43 million female voters. Just the facts...
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At the end of the day it's not really a decision at all, the government has a lot of men with guns, Anthropic has (presumably) low numbers to zero of men with guns. You don't really have a choice if the government decides to play hardball
There are other things that can happen. For example, Anthropic could secretly transfer a copy of the model to a Chinese company in exchange for a large sum of yuan at a Chinese bank. Both parts of the transaction would be invisible to US authorities. I don't think this is a likely occurrence but if you think it's impossible then you need to think outside the box more.
Fair point, but doing that from inside the US under the direct view of multiple three letter agencies would be extremely risky to put it mildy
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These stories about regulation preventing EU frontier models are frankly complete bullshit. The real reason is much simpler, but also harder to fix. To build frontier models you need VC money. There’s no VC money because VC believe that there is no market for a ‘EU Champion’. There’s no market for a EU champion because internal EU market is not big enough for VC returns. Why invest in EU champion when the US champion…
In most EU countries if your company went bankrupt, you are not allowed to open another one. Think about that for a little bit. The Southern Countries are parasitically living from EU funds and EU programs, including money transfer for the budgets. The rich countries are desperately seeing China eating their lunch in Cars and all the rest. Add to this the aging population, and now having the head under the sand on AI…
> In most EU countries if your company went bankrupt, you are not allowed to open another one. Think about that for a little bit.
That's just completely false but ok. There's even a EU regulation to ensure the exact opposite: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=legissum...
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#66This is a wake up call for EU, but it’s already too late IMO. ChatGPT was launched in 2022 and since then only company in EU which has released a model that is even closer to a frontiers is Mistral. With strong data protection, copyright and privacy laws, it would be a nightmare for any company to train models because activists lawyers would sue left and right. Even by some miracle they come up with the model, again…
Why _too_ late? Late, yes, but you’re implying that some line was crossed.
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There are other things that can happen. For example, Anthropic could secretly transfer a copy of the model to a Chinese company in exchange for a large sum of yuan at a Chinese bank. Both parts of the transaction would be invisible to US authorities. I don't think this is a likely occurrence but if you think it's impossible then you need to think outside the box more.
Fair point, but doing that from inside the US under the direct view of multiple three letter agencies would be extremely risky to put it mildy
If it's lucrative but risky, it will happen.
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Viewing it as an obligation means you are weak. There are consequences to disobeying the law - a successful person will view them through the lens of cost-benefit analysis, not of dogma.
Good luck with that. I hope you’re successful in your law breaking endeavours with your highly informed cost benefit analyses.
I've broken many laws. Have you not? Never crossed at a red light with no cars in sight?
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In most EU countries if your company went bankrupt, you are not allowed to open another one. Think about that for a little bit. The Southern Countries are parasitically living from EU funds and EU programs, including money transfer for the budgets. The rich countries are desperately seeing China eating their lunch in Cars and all the rest. Add to this the aging population, and now having the head under the sand on AI…
> In most EU countries if your company went bankrupt, you are not allowed to open another one. Think about that for a little bit. That's just completely false but ok. There's even a EU regulation to ensure the exact opposite: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=legissum...
You dont have a clue, and are showing EU regulations made by funcionaires that most countries simply ignore.
Here is an example of the current situation in Luxembourg for example, where the EU Court is based! They want you to clean up your debts first, well you would not go bankrupt if you could no? And if you look at the remaining conditions for the so called second chance they are impossible to achieve.
https://sstlaw.lu/obtaining-a-business-license-after-facing-...
In the Netherlands restarting after bankruptcy is possible, but not automatic. The bankruptcy trustee determines whether the business can restart, and restart may be impossible if it harms creditors...
Spain excludes or limits discharge for some public debts and certain debtors...
Ireland and Austria completely ignored the law you quoted and currently have infringement procedures...see you in a few years...
Poland did not apply at all the law you mentioned, and had been criticized by the EU but nothing was made about it until now...
There are differences between being on the field, or knowing how to do a google search...
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I'm seeing this downvoted, but it's - unfortunately - painfully true! European politicians are only ever judged by what they say, not what they do, so there's no incentive beyond the empty words. As a result, this is all they do: they express a populist opinion and jump to the next hot topic, with no actual work put into solving any of the issues.
European politicians are subject to US's (and thus Trump's) orders. The "strong and deep statements" they release are cheap theater. The US is defending Europe through NATO. Until that changes, the EU will continue to be the US's slave.
I'm not really sure the US can be counted on to defend the EU via NATO anymore. They certainly gave up on Ukraine, which is grinding Russia down to the benefit of the EU and NATO.