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EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by mensetmanusman »

inigyou wrote: post #57
drnick1 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran has no choice but to make a deal, if they don't want their country turned into a parking lot. With complete air superiority, taking their power plants and a few bridges would lead to complete economic collapse as seen in Cuba.

There is no evidence that the USA can or will turn Iran into a parking lot. Which countries, besides the USA, has the USA turned into parking lots so far? There is plenty of evidence the strait will remain closed and the USA will continue dying until the USA surrenders. Notwithstanding that nice toddler-level reversal, "you can't close the strait, I'm closing the strait!"

The US is dying at the slowest rate of nearly every country outside of Africa.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by mensetmanusman »

orwin wrote: post #50
drnick1 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran has no choice but to make a deal, if they don't want their country turned into a parking lot. With complete air superiority, taking their power plants and a few bridges would lead to complete economic collapse as seen in Cuba.

Let's try to not glorify terrorism too much and still pretend the west do not target civilians and civilian infrastructure please. Remember, the pesky Arabs are the one who target civilians, that's why they are terrorists. We only occasionally target civilians, and when it happens, it's because they are evil and support an evil man, so we aren't.

It's good to be angry about hypocrisy. Since both sides target civilians, the only winner will be whoever is more powerful.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by etchalon »

nielsbot wrote: post #28
etchalon wrote: post #15

We went with a PHEV when I renewed our lease last month, specifically because gas prices

Curious why not pure EV?

We take long road trips, with three dogs, often. The anxiety of thirty minute charge stops just isn't super fun (we've tried it).

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by mandeepj »

naveen99 wrote: post #58
inigyou wrote: post #55

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Every country? Or just the US? Fuel is through the roof in most countries, Japan had to dedollarize (call in its USA loans) to buy oil and several Asian countries had to switch to 4-day workweeks to avoid riots and coups.

Where are the climate change fanatics when you need them? Work from home Covid style would decrease oil consumption and oil prices.

You still think climate change is a hoax? Maybe that’s why you didn’t hear all the pushback and criticism for totally unnecessary and unwanted Iran war!!

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by mandeepj »

jerlam wrote: post #56
onlypassingthru wrote: post #20

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The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

Gas prices nationwide have been dropping for a month, despite no peace treaty being signed. I don't understand it.

> despite no peace treaty being signed. I don't understand it.

How many he has said “we have already won the war” and “we are very close to signing the deal”?

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by ericd »

inigyou wrote: post #59
ericd wrote: post #3

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Yep, Trump enacted a de facto global carbon tax.

First taxing carbon with a blockade, now taxing animal meat with screwworm. I wonder what bad thing he'll accidentally destroy next, maybe the military industrial complex?

Great points. Military industrial complex, he's shown how the US military doctrine we're extremely heavily invested in doesn't work too well in this new world of cheap drones, so maybe. Maybe Raytheon et al will lose their expensive military contracts and we'll build out much cheaper weapons. Maybe the guy is actually just brilliant at making unpalatable things happen.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by Haven880 »

jerlam wrote: post #56
onlypassingthru wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

Gas prices nationwide have been dropping for a month, despite no peace treaty being signed. I don't understand it.

SPR is fueling that decrease in price. But it won't last till midterm. Expect Iranians (and Chinese+Russians) to drag this till Nov.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by Haven880 »

drnick1 wrote: post #33
thunky wrote: post #25

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I don't think that's true, but if it is then Iran would be foolish to make a deal right now.

Iran has no choice but to make a deal, if they don't want their country turned into a parking lot. With complete air superiority, taking their power plants and a few bridges would lead to complete economic collapse as seen in Cuba.

You should read up Chinese satellite images of surrounding Gulf countries. Iran GDP now is growing. Their revenue spike up. The back end of Iran is fully operational with Russia and China shipping in goods on steroid. F35 and B2 no longer flies in Iran.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Post by Haven880 »

jimnotgym wrote: post #12
2muchtime wrote: post #6

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The thing is a lot of people might be right at the tipping point of buying an EV and then some news like this comes out and it pushes them over the line. I feel EVs at this moment are right at the level of “I’m gonna buy a new car, but maybe I’ll wait for the one after before I jump into an EV”. Better batteries (solid state), better charging speeds and more fast charger availability seem to have a large group of peo…

Renault seems to have made a sensibly priced range with some classic styles too. Familiar cars but with EV, rather than early adopter cars like the Nissan Leaf or weird tech bro cars.

Ghosn was right. Japanese did him dirty and Nissan collapsed as a result.
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