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"Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by tombert »

Swizec wrote: post #30
tombert wrote: post #9

I have no doubt that the writer is better at translating than AI, but I have to say that AI translation has gotten so good that I'm not sure how much longer translation work will be there, or rather it might end up being more about auditing. For example, I just read the Lawrence Ellsworth translation of The Three Musketeers, which I very thoroughly enjoyed. I don't speak or read French, but from my understanding Ells…

> As far as I could tell, nothing was substantially different from the Ellsworth translation and the Fable translation. Crucially the full translation was part of ChatGPT’s training set. Recall is a pretty solved problem in machine learning. How well does it translate a French novel published yesterday? Where neither the original novel nor any translations are in the training set yet? Or might not even exist! I tried…

Did no one actually finish reading my comment?

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by tombert »

paulddraper wrote: post #34
tombert wrote: post #9

I have no doubt that the writer is better at translating than AI, but I have to say that AI translation has gotten so good that I'm not sure how much longer translation work will be there, or rather it might end up being more about auditing. For example, I just read the Lawrence Ellsworth translation of The Three Musketeers, which I very thoroughly enjoyed. I don't speak or read French, but from my understanding Ells…

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Already mentioned in the comment lol.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by kevincox »

layer8 wrote: post #4

What’s unfortunate is that the market that is willing to pay for high-quality human translation has shrunken considerably.

Is it that unfortunate? Tasks that don't require high-quality translation now don't need human labor. We should be celebrating.

The sad part is that we haven't figured out how to distribute our resources fairly to these people even thought their services aren't required as often. Instead we just take their wages and give them to the top 0.1%

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by rootusrootus »

pixel_popping wrote: post #2

I agree with the take, but it's a temporary one, the sad reality is that we will be literally inferior soon, there will be a point where we will not trust human input without counter check by AI, we need to remember that we are kinda at the beginning of the AI era, in 5 to 10 years it's very unlikely that a human translator or software engineers will do better than the tooling we will have. There is already a tipping…

> we will be literally inferior soon

This plague of misanthropic doom is itself pretty depressing. Why do so many people think LLMs are in any way on a path to compete with human brains? Why do you think so little of yourself? The brain is magnificent and complex in ways that we are unable to decipher anytime soon, and it does way more than an LLM. Way, way more.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by madaxe_again »

ixtli wrote: post #46
Drupon wrote: post #14

An honest to god article full of em dashes that's not because it was AI but because it was a human using them as a crutch to get around crafting sentences that flow naturally. Almost brings a tear to my eye.

I wish more people had casual exposure to professional translators. Its a deeply important, vanishingly small segment of the human population and has been this way for at least many thousands of years. Also, it will continue to be!

I’ve a friend who does simultaneous interpretation at the UN and she’s just… good god, how do you even do that. Oh, and she does it in six languages.

And here I am, brain the size of a galaxy, and I fumble my way through every language I speak other than English.

Serious respect for the linguists.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by allknowingfrog »

TekMol wrote: post #57

AI isn’t replacing me. Like a toddler, it needs to be constantly coached. Like a toddler, it will grow up. Humans are really bad at noticing trajectories. They see the current situation. They know what the situation was 5 years ago. But for some reason they do not believe that there is a trajectory. They view the present state as the final destination.

Sure, just like AI enthusiasts seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of local maxima...

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by zipy124 »

tombert wrote: post #61
Swizec wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As far as I could tell, nothing was substantially different from the Ellsworth translation and the Fable translation. Crucially the full translation was part of ChatGPT’s training set. Recall is a pretty solved problem in machine learning. How well does it translate a French novel published yesterday? Where neither the original novel nor any translations are in the training set yet? Or might not even exist! I tried…

Did no one actually finish reading my comment?

Welcome to the internet

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by zuzululu »

rootusrootus wrote: post #29
zuzululu wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This moment is coming for software developers too

More specifically, it is coming for coders . If you make your living by banging out lines of code all day, then you may want to be looking at adjusting your career trajectory. But if that is your job, you are either very junior, or a bit foolish for getting into that situation.

so what is software developer doing if writing code is not part of their job

I don't see how not writing code is being offered as a moat, it seems like that is just translating business/stakeholder requirements to architecture/biz processes which is exactly the type of low hanging fruit that AI will capture first

or was it your point that the position sits closer to the stakeholders (relatively compared to those lifting) thus immune from replacement by AI

or is your argument that your taste is exquisite that no AI will be able to match it like it already has with software so far and it will not improve beyond the current state

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