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There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Recently upgraded my WAN to 10/10 Gbit/s P2P Fiber. The router is a UCG-Fiber, connected via a DAC/SFP+ cable to a USW-Flex-2.5G-8-PoE switch. My APs were already Wi-Fi 7 with 2.5GbE PoE, so no change there. Total cost was around USD 400. The result: effectively unlimited bandwidth, and, best of all, an average latency of 1ms to the internet. Do I need it? No. Do I love it? Absolutely.

What ISP are you using for true P2P Fiber at 10 GBit?

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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I pay about $80 for a 1Gbps symmetrical connection in Brazil.

I work in photography in my spare time, and a single photoshoot can easily pass 2k raw photos, which I backup to three remote locations. Plus, I download every movie and TV show we consume at home, have games to play, and work as a programmer.

Honestly, if I could afford a 10 gig switch and routers (we have three at home, in mesh), I’d go higher.

Quality of life matters. If I can make a website or a download just a little bit faster, I’ll.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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In my experience, the Sony servers can barely saturate a 500Mbps pipe.

That's due to your ISP's peering, not the server.

Ok, so what? Whether it is the server, the ISP, the CDN, or whatever - if I can't utilise the speed, what's the point?

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's due to your ISP's peering, not the server.

Ok, so what? Whether it is the server, the ISP, the CDN, or whatever - if I can't utilise the speed, what's the point?

Supply and demand, why would they bother improving the infrastructure if people can't use it? Either be an early adopter, and help progress or sit at the back and wait.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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If the author ever talked to a gamer, they would have learned how ignorant they are. edit: in case it's not clear, when every other new game from major publisher starts at 50GB or 100GB and can sometimes be 300+GB, waiting 2hrs to download it is terrible and horrible for energy use.

Edit to recognise your edit, as you’ve clarified that were talking about downloads - a once a month experience. That sounds more like a time management problem - buy your game, go to bed, and it’ll be there when you wake at 2:30 for your next gaming session. ;) ~You appear to be confusing latency and bandwidth. While they are to an extent two dimensions of the same problem, it’s latency that affects gaming regardless…

> once a month experience

Incorrect assumption. Not every buys/downloads/plays games the same way you do.

Even more incorrect considering how often games are updated and how large those updates can be, especially for a new game.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit to recognise your edit, as you’ve clarified that were talking about downloads - a once a month experience. That sounds more like a time management problem - buy your game, go to bed, and it’ll be there when you wake at 2:30 for your next gaming session. ;) ~You appear to be confusing latency and bandwidth. While they are to an extent two dimensions of the same problem, it’s latency that affects gaming regardless…

The time management problem is having a job, family, and other commitments. Some of us only get a couple of hours a week to play games. Your solution would mean we’d have to wait a whole week after buying a game before we can play it. And I’m sure you can appreciate that’s not a particularly constructive recommendation. And that’s before you take into account how large some updates are. Fortnight updates, for example…

This.

Lots of people here doesn't understand other people's life constraints and refuse to acknowledge that different lifestyle exist.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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post #58

Recently upgraded my WAN to 10/10 Gbit/s P2P Fiber. The router is a UCG-Fiber, connected via a DAC/SFP+ cable to a USW-Flex-2.5G-8-PoE switch. My APs were already Wi-Fi 7 with 2.5GbE PoE, so no change there. Total cost was around USD 400. The result: effectively unlimited bandwidth, and, best of all, an average latency of 1ms to the internet. Do I need it? No. Do I love it? Absolutely.

What ISP are you using for true P2P Fiber at 10 GBit?

https://www.init7.net/en/internet/fiber7/

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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My ISP has a 1TB bandwidth cap per month. You have to pay $30 extra to unlock unlimited bandwidth but I assume even unlimited bandwidth has some limit after which they throttle. They already charge $105/mo for 600Mbps down and 25Mbps up with just the 1 TB limit.

I’d happily take symmetrical 300 Mbps with a 5 TB cap instead of asymmetrical Gigabit speeds and 1 TB cap.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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The author (me) is English, living in England.

You'd have thought the "£" would be a massive hint. Guessing they didn't even get beyond the title on HN Lol

I actually read a good part of the article but I don’t make a difference between the various Anglo Saxon currency symbols :)
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