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Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#61
Microsoft doesn't listen much. The easiest to get them attention is actively migrate to Apple or Linux. Let's make Windows a niche operating system. That is the only way to get your message across. We all actively pushed from 95% Windows OS dominant in the 90s to now about 65%. Make it 5% and then, Microsoft will be a darling. That is their motivation. They want that coveted 5% niche OS position. We should help Microsoft achieve that.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#62

You buy the license and still get ads and Edge shoved in your face. macOS is far from perfect, but at least it doesn’t do that.

Yet.

They're probably delaying it until Google locks down Android completely, so there's no alternative you can switch to.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#63

Why are people still using Windows? OMG, what is wrong with people? Just use Linux. Literally any major Linux distro is superior nowadays. You don't like it, stop using it! You hate it, boycott it! Don't expect change. They care so little about you and your opinions; demanding change from a multi-trillion dollar company is almost cringe-worthy at this point. Like a cockroach begging for mercy as your shoe is coming d…

Well, I don't really see Linux as a good alternative. For example, all major distros force me to use systemd, dbus and atk. Dbus+atk is practically a platform for spyware. Everything that happens in the system passes either through dbus or atk, or both. Another pain point for me is that xdg-open is crap and there's no alternative but to install my own script instead, which is overwritten with every xdg update.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#64

Controversial thought: Browsers will become a niche and fall into obscurity like IRC nowadays, based on what I observed working in South East Asia, where people don't even know what browsers are and "the internet" are walled social networks and apps.

Quite interesting comment. Did this group of folk not have access to a computer? Did they use Chrome or Safari?

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#65
post #31

> SPONSORED CONTENT FROM BROWSER CHOICE ALLIANCE Who is the "Browser Choice Alliance" I thought to myself. One web search later: > Our members: Midori, Opera, Vivaldi, Wavebox, Browserworks, and, ... wait for it ... > Chrome.

Yes, competing browser vendors want to compete on what is still the biggest 'desktop OS'. It would be more remarkable if this had been written by, say, the Sierra Club or the National Federation of Piano Tuners. That Google/Chrome is part of this group comes as no surprise nor does the fact that they'd most likely act the same as Microsoft does if and when they're in the position Microsoft is.

It's not the substance of what is being said, but the "moral outrage washing" communication strategy, employed by a market participant who is themselves deeply immoral, that I find kind of interesting, entertaining, noteworthy, funny, and morally objectionable.

Also: With something like a 75% market share that Chrome enjoys, I don't see how they can keep a straight face when complaining about the anticompetitive practices allowing a competitor to hold on to a 10% market share.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#67
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> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice. Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of I…

This could have been written 25 years ago. Indeed, I can't believe we're still having the same conversation decades later. And now with Google effectively dictating how you interact with the web, the industry has gotten worse, not better.

I still remember the popup ads in IE, especially those resembling system alerts. Even without Adblock, the web is way better right now that it used to be in 2001.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#68
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> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice. Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of I…

As someone who was NTSE certified in the late '90s, you are absolutely correct. I stopped supporting the platform when they: - Mandated WGA even for licensed partners that got "Teh Crate" of every release every month which mandated multiple hosts for every version in lieu of simple multi-boot - Allowed arbitrary code in the Registry - Embedded IE making multi-browser testing a nightmare - Developer API support went f…

what is NTSE? Did you mean MCSE?

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#69
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> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice. Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of I…

It needs to be said that this article was written by the Browser Choice Alliance, which is funded by another convicted monopolist, namely Google. So this is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, and the conflict of interest is obvious; Google paid for this article because they want to preserve their own anti-competitive monopoly position. It's unfortunate that this is where we are with American business in 2026,…

Oh god

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

#70
This seems odd to write this when Edge's market share is like nothing. Obviously there are problems in principle with Microsoft's position via the OS (haven't there always? Like since the IE days) but this seems like just not a thing. As ever the target should be Chrome or whatever and that issues with that platform/standards feature disparity, Chromium etc.

And why is this in Politico? ...oh I see it's the Europe edition. Is this because of EU tech sovereignty trends?

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