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Microsoft announces Scout, an autonomous AI agent built on OpenClaw

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Re: Microsoft announces Scout, an autonomous AI agent built on OpenClaw

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Post by theturtletalks »

wan23 wrote: post #54
theturtletalks wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But can really say any of their products are top of their respective niches? Windows, Xbox, Azure are not the gold standard. They had the lead or close to it in these niches but floundered that. I never understand these takes like they did this much in revenue. OP acknowledges that, they have enterprise down and are too big to fail. What’s to say they couldn’t be doing more revenue? Or even better year over year if t…

If Windows isn't the gold standard having 70% of the market, then what is? Azure is in second place not by far after AWS. And these are huge, HUGE markets. I wouldn't say your local grocer is dead because it's not Costco, and of course by this logic Costco is itself dead because it's not Walmart.

Maybe we are jumping the gun on Windows. My echo chamber is tech people and they seemed to have lost faith in windows after they Windows 11 introduced ads and plugged every hole that allowed to bypass needing a Microsoft account. Gaming and anti-cheat not working on Linux will keep that market share high for a while.

Re: Microsoft announces Scout, an autonomous AI agent built on OpenClaw

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Post by yashau »

robryan wrote: post #44
PUSH_AX wrote: post #7

I'm sorry, did OpenClaw improve by orders of magnitude in the last couple of months? Maybe so because it was an absolute dumpster fire when I looked at it, you could taste the "vibe" it was so poorly put together, I can't imagine anyone respectable building on top of it, better to just steal the compelling ideas (agent with a cron wrapper)

It is the least reliable piece of software I have ever used. While I was still using it I got into states that were completely broken and the easiest way to get out was to wait for the next version and hope that did something.

Obligatory: https://isitstable.com/openclaw

Re: Microsoft announces Scout, an autonomous AI agent built on OpenClaw

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Post by gchamonlive »

infecto wrote: post #2

Microsoft is still going to win because they are the no risk option for many businesses but wow I might actually be embarrassed to be part of these efforts. I hate to use such hyperbolic language too but they have continued year over year for the past 3 years failed to deliver in AI. From the useless frameworks they have been building on the Azure side, the partnership with Anthropic where they are still building cop…

The thing is that I have to agree with you. It'll take Microsoft killing a large enough company for execs to start taking notice.

Re: Microsoft announces Scout, an autonomous AI agent built on OpenClaw

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Post by pton_xd »

chips_not_fries wrote: post #40

The idea that people are desperate to get AI assisted support to book meetings or flights is utterly barking TAX THE TOKENS 100% Don't let these companies take from our societies without giving back politicians: if you aren't taxing the tokens you ain't getting my vote

Tax the tokens, I actually like that idea. It'd be like a gasoline tax -- drivers pay for infrastructure maintenance. In this case, token consumers would pay for the increased burden on the grid.

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Post by pipes »

observationist wrote: post #8
infecto wrote: post #2

Microsoft is still going to win because they are the no risk option for many businesses but wow I might actually be embarrassed to be part of these efforts. I hate to use such hyperbolic language too but they have continued year over year for the past 3 years failed to deliver in AI. From the useless frameworks they have been building on the Azure side, the partnership with Anthropic where they are still building cop…

How's your IBM mainframe doing, these days? Wait, you use Watson, right? IBM still exists. They're the perfect example of how far a corporate behemoth can keep rolling after it effectively dies. Microsoft is effectively dead. It's easier and less hassle to use Linux desktop environments than to wrestle with Windows bullshit. Their flagship product is a sad joke, their leadership is flailing for purpose, and their ent…

Sorry, very much disagree:

- c# is a great language that is looked down on by people who haven't used it.

- typescript is also amazing and has helped massively in web front end development and backend.

- .net is cross platform especially in the backend world.

- windows backwards compatibility and hardware support is way better than the alternatives.

- yeah windows 11 is full of so much adware crap it's a shame but i recently switchedy home desktop back to it after giving up trouble shooting a network card driver issue on Linux. The same issue I've encountered multiple times over 22 years running on different hardware.

- and all my gog games just work on windows :)

- yes I know proton, it's amazing, I have a steam deck, but not everything works easily or at all.

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Post by afavour »

observationist wrote: post #8
infecto wrote: post #2

Microsoft is still going to win because they are the no risk option for many businesses but wow I might actually be embarrassed to be part of these efforts. I hate to use such hyperbolic language too but they have continued year over year for the past 3 years failed to deliver in AI. From the useless frameworks they have been building on the Azure side, the partnership with Anthropic where they are still building cop…

How's your IBM mainframe doing, these days? Wait, you use Watson, right? IBM still exists. They're the perfect example of how far a corporate behemoth can keep rolling after it effectively dies. Microsoft is effectively dead. It's easier and less hassle to use Linux desktop environments than to wrestle with Windows bullshit. Their flagship product is a sad joke, their leadership is flailing for purpose, and their ent…

> It's easier and less hassle to use Linux desktop environments than to wrestle with Windows bullshit.

Almost every corporate IT deployment disagrees with you. Linux is free, if companies could switch to it with no negative consequences they would. And yet they don't.

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Post by jongjong »

observationist wrote: post #38
andsoitis wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft is effectively dead. Microsoft is the 4th largest company by market cap.

Yes. They're not in any danger of disappearing. They just don't have any purpose anymore. They don't provide anything to the market that can't be gotten elsewhere, more cheaply, at higher quality, with better support, or with any other product advantage you might suggest. The only advantage they have is inertia; software works on windows that doesn't work on other platforms. Those are a tiny, tiny percentage of cases…

It's like Oracle. They became a law firm. They only just happen to use software as an excuse to get free money from the government.

The main purpose of the software is as a narrative device for making sales.

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