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Re: Debug Project

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like you’re referring to the same initiative - https://blog.debug.com/2026/05/debug-expands-in-singapore-bu...

No, check these videos which are 4-6 years older. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4k5xfrkR4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH57Oo-FYQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAcxBNcAV00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGiCO_4EqoU

The FAQ on the website says their first study was completed in 2018 and results published in 2020.

Re: Debug Project

#62
post #60

I don't understand non-breedable part, mosquitoes are a part of a food chain as everything else, surely you don't think eliminating them will have no consequences?

it is unlikely that other mosquitos (that don’t carry disease) will fail to fill the niche

Re: Debug Project

#63
Heh after reading that title card I thought this was going to be a mosquito based software bug analogy. I expected a description of how to write software that resulted in more "good bugs" that might facilitate finding other bugs somehow. Now I'm a little disappointed

Re: Debug Project

#64
I think supporting the predators of mosquitos is the better solution.

We should go out of our way to avoid spraying insecticides in our lawns and other spaces. The lifecycle of the mosquito is much more rapid than that of fish, spiders, dragonflies, bats, etc. If you regularly nuke an area with insecticides, the mosquito population will have a lot less pressure to deal with.

Re: Debug Project

#65
I had a lot of fun building this marketing website for Debug back when I worked at Verily in 2016.

Crazy that despite their progress behind the scenes, they appear to have not touched this website since.

I probably spent a little too much time tweaking the CSS to get the mosquitoes to not overlap the text on various viewport sizes :)

Re: Debug Project

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but you’re assuming that whatever they put into our environment will target that perfectly. I’m concerned there’ll be other effects and that such releases aren’t reversible.

They are releasing sterile males of one specific species, infected with a naturally occurring bacteria that naturally infects them in the wild as well. It's hard to imagine a more targeted or less objectionable method than this. If you won't accept this method then you're essentially arguing we should never attempt to reduce the invasive mosquito population by any means, which I will have to respectfully but strongly…

I can imagine many ways this can backfire. The simplest is - the targeting you’re assuming may not be actually what happens. It may be that some number of bugs released are different and have an unintended side effect. What gives this private organization the right to run this experiment on all of us? Will they assume liability?

Re: Debug Project

#67
My understanding (very informal armchair) is that someone could relatively easily wipe out aedes aegypti using a gene drive with a sort of sex-selective infertility:

Release a few thousand females carrying a gene drive that produces all infertile males, and all fertile females (who all also have the same gene due to it being a gene drive). Every generation, there are more and more infertile males, and more and more fertile females carrying this extinction gene. After several generations (a.k.a. a few years), the population collapses completely.

I vote yes.

Re: Debug Project

#68

The domain name reminds me of the venerable DOS "debug.com" command, which managed to combine an interactive and scriptable debugger, assembler, and disassembler into a program weighing a few kilobytes. I spent many long hours in my youth using it to reverse engineering copy protection on games. I really wish we had a similar tool for the modern era.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who immediately thought of this.

And yes, some of us are either old enough that we remember DEBUG.COM, or we got started way too young.

Re: Debug Project

#69
post #59

The domain name reminds me of the venerable DOS "debug.com" command, which managed to combine an interactive and scriptable debugger, assembler, and disassembler into a program weighing a few kilobytes. I spent many long hours in my youth using it to reverse engineering copy protection on games. I really wish we had a similar tool for the modern era.

Oh wow. I remember doing this as well... with little to no success. The debug.com binary only showed one measly ASM instruction at a time as I recall. Shudder.

Just type u and strike Enter

Re: Debug Project

#70

I had a lot of fun building this marketing website for Debug back when I worked at Verily in 2016. Crazy that despite their progress behind the scenes, they appear to have not touched this website since. I probably spent a little too much time tweaking the CSS to get the mosquitoes to not overlap the text on various viewport sizes :)

it's a beautiful website, if ain't broke don't fix it, right?
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