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Re: KDE at 30

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Post by c-hendricks »

datakan wrote: post #45
badsectoracula wrote: post #41

I don't really use Plasma itself (and soon i wont even be able to if the rumors of them dropping X11 support are to be believed) but i do use various KDE apps, like Krita (which i use for most painting stuff), Kate (my main programming editor, coupled with clangd for C/C++ programming), KolourPaint, Spectacle, Ghostwriter, etc and in general i find KDE/Qt apps to be more to my liking in their UX than anything based o…

They aren't dropping X11, they are only dropping it in their new login manager. Change the login manager and it will continue to work fine for now.

They do plan to remove X11 from Plasma Desktop as well: https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-f...

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by F3nd0 »

naves wrote: post #55
F3nd0 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Window Maker is still really cool! Not a full desktop environment, though. I tried using it with GNUstep for a while, but while the base libraries are apparently still actively developed and maintained, a lot of the applications are antiquated, and they’re very hard to make blend in with EFL/GTK/Tk/Qt apps. Sometimes I wonder what the desktop landscape would look like today if that branch of software gained wider ado…

You should then give NEXTSPACE a try: https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace I think it’s the closest thing to that dream today.

Oh, it’s still alive! Development stalled a while back, so I was worried something may have happened to the author, with their land being invaded and all.

It seems more focused on the retro aesthetic, which I personally don’t love, but it’s still really nice to see.

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by Rooster61 »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #14

I feel quite repulsed by the fact that the first thing you see when opening the post is a huge donation card.

My tolerance for donation begging is directly proportional to how A) non-evil the thing is asking for the donations and B) how much utility I get out of said thing. KDE, personally, falls squarely into the "By all means, beg" category. I use their stuff every day for free, and their hard work deserves recompense.

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by sph »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #14

I feel quite repulsed by the fact that the first thing you see when opening the post is a huge donation card.

This comment is like that 'no take, only throw' meme.

I want free software. Don't ask for donations, just give me free software.

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by em-bee »

datakan wrote: post #53
F3nd0 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Window Maker is still really cool! Not a full desktop environment, though. I tried using it with GNUstep for a while, but while the base libraries are apparently still actively developed and maintained, a lot of the applications are antiquated, and they’re very hard to make blend in with EFL/GTK/Tk/Qt apps. Sometimes I wonder what the desktop landscape would look like today if that branch of software gained wider ado…

> Sometimes I wonder what the desktop landscape would look like today if that branch of software gained wider adoption in the free software communities. :-) It's derived from GNUStep which was from NeXstep who Apple bought. OSX and now macOS are descendants of that design. That's where the macOS dock comes from. Not a 1 to 1 design obviously but a marriage between the operating systems thanks to Steve Jobs.

early versions of MacOS X were really just reskinned NeXTSTEP/OpenStep. in the first versions you could even switch through some trickery, i think.

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by fragmede »

thom wrote: post #50

It feels to me that a lot of the bigger ideas in KDE fell away over the years. In the 2000s I would log in every morning, open a KWord doc in one Konqueror tab, a KSpread sheet in another, and some browser tabs alongside them, then I'd launch Kate and open some files over SSH or FTP and get to work. It felt like someone had really embraced OO and applied it to every part of the desktop, and I assume something like KP…

KDE-connect is my preferred cross-platform local clipboard/file/whatever sharing program when venture out of a walled garden

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by newsoftheday »

c-hendricks wrote: post #61
datakan wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't dropping X11, they are only dropping it in their new login manager. Change the login manager and it will continue to work fine for now.

They do plan to remove X11 from Plasma Desktop as well: https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-f...

> Outside of rare special cases, yes, they will still work using the Xwayland compatibility layer. It does a great job of providing compatibility for most X11 applications

Not on my 4 year old PC. Wayland performs poorly and usually in wonky ways. I tried it for several weeks. Could not stand the odd behaviors and poor performance and went back to X11. And this is an AlienWare PC, cost me $2000 US, the most I've ever paid for a PC. Can't imagine how bad Wayland would be on the lesser PC's/laptops in our home.

Re: KDE at 30

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Post by NoboruWataya »

It's been a long time since I've used KDE but I have fond memories of it. When I first started using Linux I was impressed by how integrated and polished it was. A lot of the KDE-branded software was high quality, too (I remember Akregator and Kate in particular). It seemed to me, at the time, the best introduction to Linux for someone coming from Windows. That must have been about 20 years ago(!). I've since come to prefer a more lightweight and minimalist setup but it's great to see KDE still going strong.
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