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Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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Re: Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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think of me as the stupidest person on the planet and explain to my how a flock camera is violation of privacy

It builds a map of your life without you knowing. Thousands of cameras snapping your plate over months means someone can piece together that you go to a certain church, a certain doctor, a certain bar, or a certain person's house. You never agreed to that, and you can't see it happening.

There's no warrant and often no real oversight. Normally police need a judge's permission (a warrant) to track someone. Flock can let them search where your car has been without that step, which is why people call it "warrantless surveillance." And it's been misused: several towns like Oshkosh and Appleton canceled their Flock contracts over privacy concerns and several incidents of misuse by law enforcement.

You don't control the data, and the rules can change. This is a big one. When Brookings agreed to install the cameras, the city was promised it would own the data, that retention would be temporary, and that Flock would not sell the information, with the contract stating Flock does not own and shall not sell customer data. Then in February 2026 Flock rewrote its terms, granting itself a perpetual, irrevocable license to use and disclose all customer data, and deleted the promise not to sell that data. So data collected about you can outlive the promises that were made when the camera went up.

https://www.wbay.com/2026/05/12/local-communities-cancel-flo... https://www.brookingsregister.com/2026/05/22/letter-to-the-e...

Re: Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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Since military service is mandatory in Israel, it means that basically any Israeli (with the exception of Hasidic Jews), male or female, is, not by choice, ex-IDF. It isn't a signal of their choices, or willing participation, just of where they were born. If you don't know this, now you do. If you knew this already...

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>If they had any spine they'd kill themselves

Please never type something like this again.

>Same should apply to any ex-Russian military, any foreign ex-intelligence too. This isn't a harsh take.

This is a harsh take. And why foreign? Should NSA employees kill themselves too? American soldiers? What a wild take.

Re: Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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Speed cameras save lives. It's best when they're paired with: - good publicity (drivers know that speed cameras exist) - density (high chance of passing a speed camera) - enforcement of penalties (if fines can be ignored then they lose their deterrent effect) - portable (so you don't know where they are ahead of time)

They also enable mass surveillance and they also unnecessarily reduce quality of life. No one talks about the time lost to artificially low speed limits. But they do matter.

> No one talks about the time lost to artificially low speed limits

Do they talk about the time lost to RTCs?

How much time do you "lose" due to speed limits?

Re: Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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Are you sure about that? Seems pretty shameless and determined to bend all the rules to stay in power, I surely hope the change is coming though.

Dem advantage heading into midterms is highest in 20 years [1]. I am hopeful if democracy is directly attacked during the upcoming election cycle, the attempt will be contained, but agree it remains to be seen and you should have an exit plan if democracy fails. Mental model: I am sure of nothing. All models are wrong, but some are useful. Better to have a plan and not need it than need it and not have it. Hope alone…

I was thinking regime change along the lines of you gonna get old and croak and be replaced in the voting both by some millenial/Z/alpha that will not repeat your mistake of trying to give the government arbitrary power because their whole lives all they have ever seen is that power come back around in various forms to screw the people.

As you like to quote, "demographics is destiny".

Re: Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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>the most egregious abuses of privacy wait until you hear about EU's EES

do you really believe your biometrics being checked once when you enter a continent as a foreigner is the same as being videotaped at every moment in your own country as a citizen?

I think both are bad and there's no guarantee they are not keeping their eyes on me all the time

Re: Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA

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think of me as the stupidest person on the planet and explain to my how a flock camera is violation of privacy

It builds a map of your life without you knowing. Thousands of cameras snapping your plate over months means someone can piece together that you go to a certain church, a certain doctor, a certain bar, or a certain person's house. You never agreed to that, and you can't see it happening. There's no warrant and often no real oversight. Normally police need a judge's permission (a warrant) to track someone. Flock can l…

> Thousands of cameras snapping your plate

And another thing to note is that it goes way beyond just reading license plates. It's building a profile and lets them search based on it. It captures things like bumper stickers and what the people in the car look like.

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