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Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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Very unfortunate, but strategically this changes nothing for US spaceflight. If anything, SpaceX will continue to increase its dominance.

Blue Origin is challenging SpaceX - they are not the incumbent. I'm not sure how you can say that SpaceX will increase dominance despite this.

Blue Origin are challenging SpaceX about as much as I’m challenging Michael Jordan.

Sure we’re playing the same game, but the divide is enormous

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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Very unfortunate, but strategically this changes nothing for US spaceflight. If anything, SpaceX will continue to increase its dominance.

Blue Origin is challenging SpaceX - they are not the incumbent. I'm not sure how you can say that SpaceX will increase dominance despite this.

Unless the comment was edited, the person you replied to never said anything about "despite"?

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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SpaceX had to blow up plenty to get to where they are.

Yeah, but the vast majority of those were planned, and at least most exceeded expectations. Was this an expected outcome? It doesn’t sound like it, but I’ve not really investigated it deeply.

Only their most recent explosions have been planned. Anyone who followed early Starship, and even before then, remembers how much unexpected exploding, bursting and burning it, and previous SpaceX projects, have done to get to their current level of reliability.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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Ouch, losing the rocket is unfortunate, but the damage to the launch infrastructure is going to easily mean over a year of repairs. I hope they're going to take this as an opportunity to update the infrastructure from lessons learned from the flights so far, and to be able to support some of their future ambitions (e.g. Jarvis).

That is a very fair point. While I have no skin in the game, it is fascinating to see if the Us with Artemus or China with Chang'e will be the first to make it back to the Moon manned.

At this point is is looking like the winners will merely be those that have the least loses and launch pad loses can take a long time to recover from.

Credit to Space X, they have become very good and fixing launch pads with Starship. What used to be year(s) long pauses, now only take a few months.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

it'll probably be a favorable event for SpaceX's IPO.

Surely not as favorable for the IPO as SpaceX’s own recent explosion and multiple engine failures?

The entire point of SpaceX’s recent launch was an explosion. They were aiming for that outcome. They wanted that outcome.

The fact they did it with pinpoint accuracy even with engine issues and an in tact heat shield is a monumental success for a test flight.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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Ouch, losing the rocket is unfortunate, but the damage to the launch infrastructure is going to easily mean over a year of repairs. I hope they're going to take this as an opportunity to update the infrastructure from lessons learned from the flights so far, and to be able to support some of their future ambitions (e.g. Jarvis).

That is a very fair point. While I have no skin in the game, it is fascinating to see if the Us with Artemus or China with Chang'e will be the first to make it back to the Moon manned. At this point is is looking like the winners will merely be those that have the least loses and launch pad loses can take a long time to recover from. Credit to Space X, they have become very good and fixing launch pads with Starship.…

Yes, in that sense SpaceX has really benefited from having the Starbase site. My understanding is that one of the reasons pad rebuilds take so long at the Cape is that they have to work around everyone else's schedule.
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