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#62This post resonates with my situation very much, although I have not made even a tiny fraction of the contributions this person has. I think if a person like this is struggling to find work, but the donkeys who code my government's dysfunctional websites are all fully employed, it suggests the software industry is in very big trouble. That being said, and speaking from my own experience, one can develop ego problems…
> I managed to escape those toxic thought patterns by practising empathy as a deliberate activity, and forcing myself to give love and grace to others until it felt natural. > but the donkeys who code my government's dysfunctional websites are all fully employed The juxtaposition of these two statements is amusing.
I think people often make this mistake, where they think they've killed their ego, and then fail to notice when their ego returns.
I think people generally underestimate how hard it is to permanently kill their ego. What ends up happening, then, is that a lot of people genuinely believe that they have humility when in actuality they don't.
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#63This post resonates with my situation very much, although I have not made even a tiny fraction of the contributions this person has. I think if a person like this is struggling to find work, but the donkeys who code my government's dysfunctional websites are all fully employed, it suggests the software industry is in very big trouble. That being said, and speaking from my own experience, one can develop ego problems…
> I think if a person like this is struggling to find work, but the donkeys who code my government's dysfunctional websites are all fully employed...
It's effective to apply a filter of eccentric vs predictable on these sort of matters. The issue isn't so much whether someone is capable or not, but whether they fit into one of the standard boxes the bureaucracy has prepared. And to make it even worse, managers don't have the skill or inclination to try and make the best of the specific person who they employ. They generally have an approach that they've worked out based on the average of people who they have managed. If they get an employee who falls too far outside that range they may literally not know what to do. Usually at that point they will decide that they are dealing with a deviant and the problem must inherently be the deviance.
It's an unfortunate situation. Particularly if you're the sort of person who cares about getting to the best outcome and you realise how many geniuses must get shut down when the best way isn't the usual one. In practice incompetent but routine gets a lot more tolerance than competent but eccentric. Someone needs to be very competent indeed to overcome eccentricity.
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#64I have to ask the other side: why is this person so controversial? The only thing I'm aware of: she posted a very weird petition to appoint Eric Shmidt as "CEO of America" ( https://9to5google.com/2014/03/20/occupy-wall-street-co-foun... ) and told people to read Curtis Yarvin, in 2014. EDIT: lobste.rs context: https://lobste.rs/c/hjlmw1
There are a lot of examples in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46889008 eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46890435 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46892447 Yarvin believes in a world where the upper class (monarchy) runs everything. It's a pretty controversial take to support them from somebody who themselves has faced discrimination. I think Justine might be out of touch with people who…
> Yarvin believes in a world where the upper class ... runs everything.
Plenty of people believe that, if perhaps only in a descriptive sense. Given the constraints of human social organization, it's just very difficult to not have a world where some kind of restricted social elite (that people may of course rotate in and out of, allowing for some kind of social mobility) is running things. Especially if we're even less comfortable with the main realistic alternative to social hierarchy, namely open markets.
Even self-proclaimed anarchists have long acknowledged that 'the tyranny of structurelessness' is a thing: trying to remove structure just makes it less readable and overt; it doesn't make it go away.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are a lot of examples in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46889008 eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46890435 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46892447 Yarvin believes in a world where the upper class (monarchy) runs everything. It's a pretty controversial take to support them from somebody who themselves has faced discrimination. I think Justine might be out of touch with people who…
> Yarvin believes in a world where the upper class ... runs everything. Plenty of people believe that, if perhaps only in a descriptive sense. Given the constraints of human social organization, it's just very difficult to not have a world where some kind of restricted social elite (that people may of course rotate in and out of, allowing for some kind of social mobility) is running things. Especially if we're even l…
Upper class carries a heavy implication of nepotism with minimal social class mobility.
This is quite distinct from, say, a government of elected policy debaters submitting bills to a body of elected law passers that are part of a silo separate from the the silo's of military, civil enforcement, policy enactment (merit based civil service), etc.
The later is a hierarchy but not a class based one (assuming sufficient widespread education and social support).
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#66> Right now my only source of income is the $15k/year I got by being one of the top 300 GitHub users globally. That puts me in the 99.9997th percentile of open source developers (based off GitHub's 100 million monthly active user count). What it means is that I'm uniquely able to convert your money into the largest amount of value for society. I want to start by using the money to buy myself a home in San Francisco,…
This is a bizarre post by a brilliant person. I am a fan of her technical skills and I actually enjoyed her previous writing about CosmopolitanC, Redbean, llamafile… I can’t imagine how she could have problem finding jobs she is happy with given her talent. But this post just doesn’t feel right, I would guess she is suffering from depression or something.
If Justine reads this, your views seem to align well with Andrew Kelley (except the part about private aviation!), you could be a huge addition to the Zig Core team. Watch his interview with JetBrains to know more about his views on software and open source. I am an outsider, but just wanted to throw the idea out there, maybe someone can pull some strings and make it happen.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Yarvin believes in a world where the upper class ... runs everything. Plenty of people believe that, if perhaps only in a descriptive sense. Given the constraints of human social organization, it's just very difficult to not have a world where some kind of restricted social elite (that people may of course rotate in and out of, allowing for some kind of social mobility) is running things. Especially if we're even l…
Upper class carries a heavy implication of nepotism with minimal social class mobility. This is quite distinct from, say, a government of elected policy debaters submitting bills to a body of elected law passers that are part of a silo separate from the the silo's of military, civil enforcement, policy enactment (merit based civil service), etc. The later is a hierarchy but not a class based one (assuming sufficient…
Thing is, our existing governments also carry a heavy implication of nepotism with minimal social class mobility.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Upper class carries a heavy implication of nepotism with minimal social class mobility. This is quite distinct from, say, a government of elected policy debaters submitting bills to a body of elected law passers that are part of a silo separate from the the silo's of military, civil enforcement, policy enactment (merit based civil service), etc. The later is a hierarchy but not a class based one (assuming sufficient…
Thing is, our existing governments also carry a heavy implication of nepotism with minimal social class mobility.
Our?
Oh, your ?
Our Government has a PM raised in a public housing estate# and we've mostly avoided political dynasties .. (few want to get caught again* ... )
# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Albanese#Early_life
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Court
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn’t get that they’re struggling to find work from the article. Did I miss something?
> I didn’t get that they’re struggling to find work from the article. Did I miss something? They're just struggling to buy "a home in San Francisco" and "travel around the world and experience the cosmopolitan lifestyle my project is named after, using only private aviation." Also this person apparently went from being part of Occupy Wall Street to being "inspired by the political views of Curtis Yarvin" ( https://en…
> Also this person apparently went from being part of Occupy Wall Street to being "inspired by the political views of Curtis Yarvin"
A lot of the far right are anti-globalisation as Occupy Wall Street was, both are a rejection of consensus politics, and people who tend to go to extremes are more likely to go to a different extreme than become moderate.
There is also a type of brilliant person (and Justine is brilliant) who tends to go off the rails in some way. Look at the number of weird or nasty creative artists and authors.
> "travel around the world and experience the cosmopolitan lifestyle my project is named after, using only private aviation."
I did not read that far and thought the post arrogant and entitled! That is a Musk like level of being out of touch with reality. Again, something people who indulge a sense of their own brilliance are prone to.