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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.

I am also traveling through Europe, currently in Budapest. Twice now in the last week, I have heard AI music being played through the speakers at restaurants.

That's probably to be expected, before that they used covers of popular songs, likely produced by a company that offers much lower rates than e.g. the original artists.

I prefer silence over that tbh.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Hot take - who still actually uses the actual chat features for general conversation in the dev community?

depends what you mean. I regularly ask it to explain stuff, terminology I don't recognize etc. I also ask it about neat things it did, terminal commands etc so I can do them when I want to. That's chat in some sense, no? its not all "write this code"

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Nearly half of online articles are now AI-generated. [0] [0]: https://graphite.io/five-percent/ai-now-writes-as-many-onlin...

> We build on our prior research by using three different AI detectors (Pangram, GPTZero, Copyleaks). We independently evaluate each to show that the false positive rates and average false negative rates are consistently below 2%. Each AI detector shows a similar trend. This is all bullshit, none of those actually work, and the false-positives rates are sky-high. I'm not sure how any serious person have tried out any…

If you need an AI detector to figure out if something is AI or not, surely that means the AI is so good that there is no need to detect whether it is AI or not, because it is indistinguishable from writings by a human when read by humans?

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. Something similar to this happened in a "public" chat space at my company, and, despite the fact that we are leaning into LLMs and agentic workflows quite a bit, the responses were generally "I aint reading all that" and "hey, dude, thats kinda unprofessional." We shoul…

If it wasn't essential, I'd tell them to talk to me like a human or else I'd just quit the conversation entirely. Boundaries and stuff.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. Something similar to this happened in a "public" chat space at my company, and, despite the fact that we are leaning into LLMs and agentic workflows quite a bit, the responses were generally "I aint reading all that" and "hey, dude, thats kinda unprofessional." We shoul…

I understand that example, on the other hand, RTFM is as old as history and it can often be replaced by googling or asking LLMs.

Not saying that's the very specific case, but I regularly encounter in my daily life at work people delegating the kind of information seeking that can be done independently.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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thinking becomes a commodity

I also wonder if this is so visible because a lot of people don't really care what they do and will happily use any bullshit machine to simulate work.

Let's be real. Our economies are in the gutters and an insane amount of "work" is actually textbook "bullshit jobs".

However, we as a society aren't nearly ready to actually hold a conversation about that. We could probably eliminate half of all non-hands-on (i.e. a human uses their hands to manufacture a thing) employment in a matter of a year or two if we would embrace computers and digital infrastructure and give lower levels of employees more authority - and that's before AI even enters the picture. Government services are a prime example - a lot of "e government" services in Germany aren't truly digital, they generate a PDF that is printed out in some clerk's office and processed manually by copying information from that PDF into some admin program.

But unfortunately, if we were to do that, we'd run into riots faster than we could imagine. We aren't ready for a society in which we still have a small base of people that have to, literally, work (with their bodies) to keep society alive while the rest does not need to work any more.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Nearly half of online articles are now AI-generated. [0] [0]: https://graphite.io/five-percent/ai-now-writes-as-many-onlin...

I'd say even half of my Youtube feed nowadays is. 1. Find some nicher but interesting topic (e.g. some historical event like Lepanto's battle) 2. Have AI generate the content of the 20 minutes video by collecting information about it online 3. Have AI generate the video 4. Have AI generate a realistic voice to comment on the video 5. Upload it without mentioning it's all AI generated 6. Have me get mad 4 minutes into…

The YouTube algorithm got unbearable to me even before the mudslide of AI content.

I highly recommend using an extension like Unhook and disabling all algorithmic recommendations such as the Home feed, sidebar/endscreen recommendations etc. The only way I interface with YouTube now is through the subscriptions page which shows me videos from creators I follow in chronological order.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.

I am also traveling through Europe, currently in Budapest. Twice now in the last week, I have heard AI music being played through the speakers at restaurants.

AI K-pop was in the cafes in Seoul.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#69
I've recently been connecting some machines to a new switch and my colleague has been monitoring web logs at the same time using Claude. He send me a Claude-generated observation that the machines that I was able to put my hands on simultaneously must be in different buildings due to high pings. Surreal experience.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#70

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Well, it's subtly different than a kid calling mum - kids generally do that because they're insecure, an adult using ChatGPT to answer simply can't be bothered to turn on their brain...
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