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Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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I’ve been on the defender side of security my whole career. I know in some markets crime pays more than legitimate work, but it never ceases to amaze me how much thought, effort, planning, and engineering goes into providing infrastructure IT services for cybercriminals. The people involved definitely have the skills to be profitable at legitimate work; it just puzzles me that they choose to support criminals.

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Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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> The article literally has photos of their english-language customer-facing communications. Providing a website is hardly evidence they were a legitimate business.

>Providing a website is hardly evidence they were a legitimate business.

legitimate business? Of course they weren't. This is a bulletproof hoster specializing in offering hosting to people doing illegal stuff.

That's not OPs claim.

You can go on the website and rent a server for a couple of dollars in cryptocurrency right now, you don't have to work for the Russian government to do so.

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I’ve been on the defender side of security my whole career. I know in some markets crime pays more than legitimate work, but it never ceases to amaze me how much thought, effort, planning, and engineering goes into providing infrastructure IT services for cybercriminals. The people involved definitely have the skills to be profitable at legitimate work; it just puzzles me that they choose to support criminals.

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Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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The article spells it out clearly: charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities.

>"making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities."

this is very vague

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If communism is the cause, then why would this same mentality be such a massive problem in America?

> If communism is the cause, then why would this same mentality be such a massive problem in America? By communism I don't think people talk about the philosophical basis of an idealized society, but the totalitarian regime that oppresses a society and keeps the working class constantly in survival mode under the risk of losing it all.

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>As far as I can make sense of it, he enjoyed the thrill of feeling superior to others: Evading the law, exploiting people who viewed as stupid, and enriching himself in the process. I sadly see this pattern of thinking far more often than I want to in my fellow eastern Europeans.

Let's not generalize, even if you feel like you can say that because you're a member of a group you're generalizing. It's unfair to most of the people in any group being generalized.

Re-read my comment as it is written and note that my observation does not generalize.

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Now I'm confused whether my observing patterns of behaviour and recurring beliefs clustered among people from my own part of the world are in fact racism or bigotry. Am I being indecent? Am I self-hating? Are others tolerhating? I only wish some white night would unambiguously tut-tut me or else give me a pass.

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Any source to back up your claims? Otherwise it seemed pretty much a conspiracy theory to me.

The company inherited all their customers and equipment from a sanctioned company (according to the Dutch news report). Should be enough for most people.

Sanctioned company != works for the government.

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When I was learning some homelab stuff, and was setting up pfSense, I was able to see the geos of all the scans/attacks on my home internet IP. I was surprised to see that Netherlands was up there with Russia and China in volume. They all got geo blocked. What is it about the Netherlands that makes them so attractive to these people?

That's where the servers are. See all the tor nodes in Netherlands. They aren't actually in the Netherlands.

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why is this downvoted?

...because on HN, experiences which somehow contradict the perspective when salaries are highly varying across countries, esp. when someone decides to pick an explicit example, which, even if it shows the truth, is against the base-assumption of the reader of a comment. To put it somehow dimplomatic :-D

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