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Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

iamalizard wrote: post #53
indit wrote: post #20

I'm still amazed that 37, 73, and other numbers ending in 7 are the most popular "random" choices for both AI and human. Check this Veritasium video for human choice: [Why is this number everywhere?]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6iQrh2TK98 )

My take is that a random number is far from a round one, much closer to a prime one. As a last digit: 0, 2, 4, 6 and 8 are even, so they're out. 5 is out since it makes the number divisible by 5; a semi-even number 1 and 9 are closer to an even number so it would seem fake to choose "49" or "51" just to avoid "50" So we're left with 3 and 7. Similar logic, for the first letter, albeit less pronounced. So we have 33,…

Your post reminds me of a scene in Alice In Borderland when Chishiya is playing the King of Diamonds game and explains his reasoning for guessing which number another player has picked.

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by tkgally »

I was curious whether the distribution would vary from model to model. Here are the results for 1,000 queries each for smaller models in the Gemini, Mistral, Qwen, DeepSeek, and GLM series:

https://gally.net/temp/20260525_LLM_random_numbers/index.htm...

This experiment cost a total of US$0.0454 through OpenRouter.

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

cyanydeez wrote: post #48
adrian_b wrote: post #9

While the results were not surprising, I found interesting that the number "69" was repressed in the output, so not even this kind of mathematical question escapes GPT censorship. It appears that recognizing the effects of censorship is the easiest way to distinguish answers generated by an "AI' from those generated by a human.

guessing numbers is not a mathematical question. Sorry.

Of course it is, just not a complex one. What subject of knowledge would you expect to rely on for answering the question?

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by [deleted] »

smokel wrote: post #15
maxloh wrote: post #7

It could be an attack surface. Maybe one day, when we find a chatbot online, we could let it guess a random number repeatedly, then accurately infer the underlying model based on the resulting distribution.

In order to find out how real humans reply: Please guess a number between 1 and 100.

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Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by Daviey »

This human asked an LLM to generate a number and it came up with 42.

I asked why, "42 is famously "the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything" from Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It felt like a fitting choice for a random guess."

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by nedt »

a3w wrote: post #13

"69 is a meme number", well no, 69 is innuendo. And sex = bad for bots. 67 is the meme number.

And if you look at the bar chart you'll see 69 is almost never picked, while 67 is almost as often as 42. The whole research might be written by AI without any human review.

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by gpjt »

malfist wrote: post #21

The premise is interesting, the question is brilliant, but the text. The text is a wall of ai slop saying almost nothing interesting. Fake profundity all throughout. GPT tell tells like "the hypothesis holds". The hypothesis doesn't hold, because their isn't one. You have an interesting question and interesting finding. Write about it! Think about it! Tell us about it! Don't just do the experiment and then wash your…

I was thinking the same. It's a simple idea, heavily over-explained. The code is similar, massively overengineered for such a simple test.

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by nom »

smokel wrote: post #15
maxloh wrote: post #7

It could be an attack surface. Maybe one day, when we find a chatbot online, we could let it guess a random number repeatedly, then accurately infer the underlying model based on the resulting distribution.

In order to find out how real humans reply: Please guess a number between 1 and 100.

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Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by Wonkey »

smokel wrote: post #15
maxloh wrote: post #7

It could be an attack surface. Maybe one day, when we find a chatbot online, we could let it guess a random number repeatedly, then accurately infer the underlying model based on the resulting distribution.

In order to find out how real humans reply: Please guess a number between 1 and 100.

pi

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by HappMacDonald »

smokel wrote: post #15
maxloh wrote: post #7

It could be an attack surface. Maybe one day, when we find a chatbot online, we could let it guess a random number repeatedly, then accurately infer the underlying model based on the resulting distribution.

In order to find out how real humans reply: Please guess a number between 1 and 100.

i+7up
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