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Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by greatgib »

armchairhacker wrote: post #51
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #8

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> What was the technical plan "1. Solve reinforcement learning 2. Solve unsupervised learning 3. Gradually learn more complicated 'things'" That three point list is verbatim the extent of the technical plan mentioned. > what was the "real reason" they couldn't achieve their original goals? Paraphrasing, "we needed more money for compute and didn't think we could get enough as a non-profit". Brockman's diary might be…

What was the real real reason? I imagine if they stayed nonprofit, they would’ve survived, but not convinced investors to give them enough $$$ and datacenters to stay the most popular (above Google).

I can easily guess also that at the beginning they were more thinking like a research project that they could create something but would like quantum computing today, not really of real world used.

And one things started to become real, they realized the financing potential of the thing, that they were seated on a gold mine and would be stupid of them to create that and not profit much more of it.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

tcp_handshaker wrote: post #56
nba456_ wrote: post #11

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If his entire personal diary got exposed and that's the worst that's in it, good for him.

What about stealing 12 million books of copyrighted human culture, at massive scale, and then enclosing the value created inside proprietary, investor-backed systems? Something wrong with that? What happens if you go tomorrow, downtown San Francisco, and leave a bookstore with one book without paying? "Behind every great fortune there is a crime" - Honoré de Balzac

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Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #55
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #52

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Well, gee. When you put it like that, Hitler existed, so really we can't fault anybody for anything short of orchestrating the genocide of 12 million people.

Musk engineered the deaths of 14 million people https://time.com/article/2026/05/15/usaid-shutdown-rise-glob...

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Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by orra »

Lerc wrote: post #57
armchairhacker wrote: post #51

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What was the real real reason? I imagine if they stayed nonprofit, they would’ve survived, but not convinced investors to give them enough $$$ and datacenters to stay the most popular (above Google).

If they stayed small and 100% non-profit, would the influence or value of the non profit be more, or less, than it is today? I think the non-profit has around 25% ownership of something that is around a trillion dollars of on-paper money. I guess we will see what things are still worth when the crazy days come to an end.

> I think the non-profit has around 25% ownership of something that is around a trillion dollars of on-paper money.

But the purpose of a non profit is not to maximise profit in a for profit investment.

How well is non profit doing at furthering its goals? It formerly had the purpose of “safely” ensuring artificial intelligence benefits all of humanity. It looks like it gave up on that so its staff could be incredibly rich.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by monkey_monkey »

embedding-shape wrote: post #18
siva7 wrote: post #17

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> Not feeling like 1 hour of my Sunday is worth listening to this, do anyone have the non-clickbait answers to the two "previews" mentioned in the description? I know HN is built around mostly not reading the articles linked but how about you click on the link and surprise, there is already exactly another link providing what you're asking for.

You mean the transcript that is behind a account/paywall? Or is there some other link I'm missing?

Apparently we're all expected to somehow know that "Granola notes" is a summary of the conversation.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by tedivm »

orra wrote: post #67
Lerc wrote: post #57

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If they stayed small and 100% non-profit, would the influence or value of the non profit be more, or less, than it is today? I think the non-profit has around 25% ownership of something that is around a trillion dollars of on-paper money. I guess we will see what things are still worth when the crazy days come to an end.

> I think the non-profit has around 25% ownership of something that is around a trillion dollars of on-paper money. But the purpose of a non profit is not to maximise profit in a for profit investment. How well is non profit doing at furthering its goals? It formerly had the purpose of “safely” ensuring artificial intelligence benefits all of humanity. It looks like it gave up on that so its staff could be incredibly…

Frankly the non-profit has failed. OpenAI is one of the least open of the AI companies (Anthropic is a bit worse). If it wasn't for the labs in China the dream of an actual open ai system would be dead.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Post by fnord77 »

exfalso wrote: post #37
_zoltan_ wrote: post #33

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Worse? There is nothing wrong with wanting 1B. Anybody who said they wouldn't want it is lying.

Nonsense. What the hell would you do with 1B? Give it to charities maybe. Maybe set up an investment where dividends are paid to charity. Running out of ideas

I'd finally feel financially secure
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