I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.
People are going to be using a lot less software if the selection criteria include not being no agents.
Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
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Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are going to be using a lot less software if the selection criteria include not being no agents.
yes, because as we know from history without agents there is no internet or technology or anything
I'm saying that AI is going to develop software from here on. I don't think you can expect that a human is going to review every line of code. Not that it's good, but that's just how it is. It's not so different from manufacturing. A human is not reviewing every weld. I see a lot of sloppy beads, but in a lot of cases, it's good enough.
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#63I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#64I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.
I think we need to smell the coffee and review npm and scrutinize it because it is getting dangerously out of hand.
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#65For example, we (and many others) depend heavily on numpy. It's been around for decades and heavily battle tested. If someone came out with a new version of numpy vibe-code rewritten in a week, with assurances that "all tests pass", do you think we would adopt it? Absolutely not. We would have no confidence that there aren't some latent bugs or that we can fully trust the results.
It has nothing to do with AI having rewritten it, it has to do with being battle tested over time. If a team of humans had rewritten it in a week, I wouldn't trust or use it either.
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Bun never was great in terms of stability It's very easy to throw shade like this on software if you've got a bugbear with it. I'm sure you can even come up with a bunch of these "stability" problems when challenged on it. I know I could, for basically any large piece of software that I've ever used. But really, is bun worse in this regard than any other similarly ambitious open source software within it's first fe…
see that's fine with me if they want to take a year or two of human time and do the rewrite properly this is a piece of software with no architecture, and whose owners have no regard or respect for architecture. I can virtually guarantee that on average every bug they fix will create one new bug, because that's what it's like to work on software with no intentional architecture
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#67Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's alarming how people instantly jump to conclusions that Bun is now "AI slop". Bun has been almost entirely worked on by LLM's for ~6 months now, long before the Rust re-write (source: https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/2054525268296118363 ). It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.
> Bun has been almost entirely worked on by LLM's for ~6 months now So what you’re saying is that this boycot is 6 months overdue?
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#69I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.
Trivia: The term is "bellwether," i.e. a wether (castrated sheep) wearing a bell, used to guide the flock.
I think that in my mind, it was always some sort of weather related bell, like you ring it, when the weather changes.
Hopefully the sheep reference will help me remember.
Re: Electrobun 2.0 will be decoupled from Bun due to the Rust rewrite
#70I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.
What's funnier to me is none of them seem to want to abandon npm which keeps getting exploited and hacked. NPM has been the source of just how many industry wide hacks? Three major ones, and a massive supply-chain industry wide campaign against npm. But yeah, bun is the real concern here. I think we need to smell the coffee and review npm and scrutinize it because it is getting dangerously out of hand.