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Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

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Post by cyanydeez »

javascriptfan69 wrote: post #49
cyanydeez wrote: post #42

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The what class?

the middle manager class. The people whose job is to make other people do work. The people who fought against work from home because it devalued their contributions to an organization. The people most likely to be replaced by AI because they're not the capitalist owner and their not a individual contributor. They're the ones who lick the boot because they dont have to worry about who it's going to stomp on. They're the ones lubing up fascism, and telling us we're all overeacting.

Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

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Post by jadar »

cyanydeez wrote: post #61
javascriptfan69 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The what class?

the middle manager class. The people whose job is to make other people do work. The people who fought against work from home because it devalued their contributions to an organization. The people most likely to be replaced by AI because they're not the capitalist owner and their not a individual contributor. They're the ones who lick the boot because they dont have to worry about who it's going to stomp on. They're t…

This seems needlessly dismissive. The management revolution in the 20th century built the companies that innovated and built the economic middle class. It's a common trope to hate on middle managers, and not all middle-managers are good middle-managers, but they do play an important role in organizations.

Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

#63

Post by turtleyacht »

jadar wrote: post #56
turtleyacht wrote: post #52

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It's still risk though. Consensus distributes it. Future maintainers need to understand the design and motivations.

That’s not much better in my experience, from a human perspective. You inherit a system that someone designed a decade ago and all the original maintainers are long gone. One is then afraid to change anything, because of ancient landmarks and all that. But now we can actually start to piece together how these things work with AI.

Yes, for legacy--production systems--it's totally useful to generate a high-level overview, surround an unfamiliar feature with tests, and build small harnesses that exercise real functionality.

The sooner one can find an entrypoint, the sooner one can contribute with changes.

Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

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Post by tacostakohashi »

LPisGood wrote: post #13
programmertote wrote: post #9

Same. Last week, my boss, Chief Data and Analytics Officer, dumped an AI-generated proposal (~7 pages) on how to structure semantic layer on top of our dbt models. As the Data Engineering lead, I had to read it and found a few glaring issues; left a lot of comments asking him for details where it's lacking; and proposed a few of my ideas (the path I think we should take without over complicating everything unnecessar…

Why not ask your AI to review their AI slop? It feels like a new age version of “that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Basically, “that which can be sent without thought can be responded to without thought.”

I also use this strategy of mutually assured AI slop, with a no-first-use policy. I'll happily respond to AI slop PRs with AI slop code reviews / comments.

Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

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Post by cyanydeez »

jadar wrote: post #62
cyanydeez wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the middle manager class. The people whose job is to make other people do work. The people who fought against work from home because it devalued their contributions to an organization. The people most likely to be replaced by AI because they're not the capitalist owner and their not a individual contributor. They're the ones who lick the boot because they dont have to worry about who it's going to stomp on. They're t…

This seems needlessly dismissive. The management revolution in the 20th century built the companies that innovated and built the economic middle class. It's a common trope to hate on middle managers, and not all middle-managers are good middle-managers, but they do play an important role in organizations.

Oh, I didn't know CEOs and corporations ran on logic.

Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

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Post by isghoor »

programmertote wrote: post #9

Same. Last week, my boss, Chief Data and Analytics Officer, dumped an AI-generated proposal (~7 pages) on how to structure semantic layer on top of our dbt models. As the Data Engineering lead, I had to read it and found a few glaring issues; left a lot of comments asking him for details where it's lacking; and proposed a few of my ideas (the path I think we should take without over complicating everything unnecessar…

I have found using an llm to compress the information instead instead of reading it directly saves time. It's potentially lossy but it's not like the slop you got is going to lose much value by compressing it.

Re: Tell HN: I'm tired of AI-generated answers

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Post by jadar »

cyanydeez wrote: post #65
jadar wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems needlessly dismissive. The management revolution in the 20th century built the companies that innovated and built the economic middle class. It's a common trope to hate on middle managers, and not all middle-managers are good middle-managers, but they do play an important role in organizations.

Oh, I didn't know CEOs and corporations ran on logic.

Economics often assumes rational actors, but reality shows most people who make decisions are irrational. That's not unique to CEOs or corporations.
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