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Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by stego-tech »

jfengel wrote: post #46
api wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP did not say this is what we were doing. Said this is what we should do. What we are doing is attempting to hold back progress on generation while subsidizing demand, which is literally the absolute dumbest possible thing. Unless you are the fossil fuel industry. Then it’s great.

It's also great if boiling the planet is your actual goal. I wouldn't have thought that it would be so popular, but apparently it is, and people can't get t done fast enough. I'm kind of a misanthrope so philosophically I'm good with working on wiping ourselves out. The fact that we're doing it in the dumbest possible way should feel poetic. Instead it's just kind of embarrassing.

I mean, it's not a hard conspiracy theory to fabricate that space-focused billionaires like Elmo and Butthead would want Earth to become increasingly uninhabitable to justify more outside investment in their "solutions" of space race-ing to Mars or colonies that they can then rule over.

It's a conspiracy theory, but the best ones are always rooted in some morsel of truth (Elon/Bezos wanting more investment in their space firms).

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by DharmaPolice »

KronisLV wrote: post #37
leonidasrup wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who do you mean "we"? Look at the evolution of CO2 emisions in the past 40 years by region. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co-emissions-by-re...

Oh hell yeah, EU is doing something right! I fear to think how the US stats have changed. And China is… alarming.

It's relatively "easy" to cut pollution if you just outsource most of your manufacturing.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by stavros »

breakyerself wrote: post #51
stavros wrote: post #20

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We're talking about global warming specifically here, though. Cars and planes should be a much bigger worry than AI power usage.

Not when AI is directly resulting in increased greenhouse gas pollution. It's all of the above. Any source of greenhouse gas pollution is bad. Cars, planes, ships, AI data centers running on fossil fuel energy. It's all bad.

No. This is disingenuous. Something that consumes electricity doesn't care where the electricity comes from. Fix the power source, and you automatically fix every single consumer in existence at once.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by 21asdffdsa12 »

elektrontamer wrote: post #34
21asdffdsa12 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump blocked Hormus, thus stopping oil shipping. Putin blocked gas transfers to the west. They are doing there part.

Holy hell you're right. Never thought they were so concerned about the environment and global warming.

You use the disabilities to get done what must be done, where reason and institutions can not work.

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by [deleted] »

leonidasrup wrote: post #7
jmclnx wrote: post #3

>If warming continues at this rate, humanity could breach the Paris Agreement goal of limiting warming to 1.5°C in 2028, even sooner than other research has projected. I wonder if we are already there :( I remember a year or 2 ago we breached 1.5C for a short period of time. Crypto mining was bad enough, now with AI and Trump, I expect it will happen sooner then later. We did this to ourselves. We had ~40 years of wa…

Who do you mean "we"? Look at the evolution of CO2 emisions in the past 40 years by region. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co-emissions-by-re...

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Post by c0nducktr »

leonidasrup wrote: post #7
jmclnx wrote: post #3

>If warming continues at this rate, humanity could breach the Paris Agreement goal of limiting warming to 1.5°C in 2028, even sooner than other research has projected. I wonder if we are already there :( I remember a year or 2 ago we breached 1.5C for a short period of time. Crypto mining was bad enough, now with AI and Trump, I expect it will happen sooner then later. We did this to ourselves. We had ~40 years of wa…

Who do you mean "we"? Look at the evolution of CO2 emisions in the past 40 years by region. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co-emissions-by-re...

Some people always try to push the blame onto someone else...

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by p0w3n3d »

bdcravens wrote: post #60
chaostheory wrote: post #12

Population decline from collapsing birthrates should help.

Except many of the same champions of AI are also speaking out against population decline (Musk, Altman, Bezos, etc)

they want to reduce people to have possibility to create AI centres... Highlander rules

Re: Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades

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Post by mistrial9 »

stavros wrote: post #63
breakyerself wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not when AI is directly resulting in increased greenhouse gas pollution. It's all of the above. Any source of greenhouse gas pollution is bad. Cars, planes, ships, AI data centers running on fossil fuel energy. It's all bad.

No. This is disingenuous. Something that consumes electricity doesn't care where the electricity comes from. Fix the power source, and you automatically fix every single consumer in existence at once.

narrowing the topic, that is exactly the quality that energy transition theorists are leaning on. The electrical grid is uniquely able to maintain a stable engineered and market place while inputs and loads change quite a bit.
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