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Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by Evbn »

throwaway64 wrote: post #46
wildgift wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I wouldn't put it that way... I think it's true that Google is not a disinterested beacon of freedom. They align with it for their own purposes.

Its best to always remember this, Google was not on the side of "internet freedom" when they recommended to the FCC that wireless networks didn't need net neutrality.

This? http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/08/joint-policy-...

Please explain where Google harmed Internet freedom. Without Google and Android the mobile Internet would be 98% gated by the iOS app store and 2% mobile web running on dead-ended mobile safari with a slow JS engine.

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by Evbn »

wmf wrote: post #60
ikawe wrote: post #50

Surely the "evil shadowy governments" are not meeting under the explicit auspices of "curtailing internet freedom." What are the "pro" arguments for the meeting?

One of the ITU's goals is "development", meaning rich countries/companies should subsidize Internet infrastructure deployment (actually corrupt PTTs) in developing countries. The phone network already works this way, but that gravy train is coming to an end. Another goal is "diversity/localism", meaning each country should be able to impose its own values on the Internet (e.g. the great firewalls of China, Iran, Saud…

So companies can say "not our fault" when they provide services to enemies of the US/humanity.

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by throwaway64 »

Evbn wrote: post #61
throwaway64 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its best to always remember this, Google was not on the side of "internet freedom" when they recommended to the FCC that wireless networks didn't need net neutrality.

This? http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/08/joint-policy-... Please explain where Google harmed Internet freedom. Without Google and Android the mobile Internet would be 98% gated by the iOS app store and 2% mobile web running on dead-ended mobile safari with a slow JS engine.

"we both recognize that wireless broadband is different from the traditional wireline world, in part because the mobile marketplace is more competitive and changing rapidly. In recognition of the still-nascent nature of the wireless broadband marketplace, under this proposal we would not now apply most of the wireline principles to wireless, except for the transparency requirement. "

IE, nothing about network neutrality, except telling people what you throttle/etc should apply to wireless.

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