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>There are jobs, but not the ones most people want. There is no such thing as a shortage in labor markets. There is just people not willing to pay the correct price.
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#62Jokes on FT, we have both
Fachkräftemangel is just a joke, you know. There are enough Fachkräfte for everything.
No, there are never enough experts for everything. I mean, how can there ever be enough 18 year old workers, fresh from college, with 20 years experience on a technology which will only be released next month, who are willing to work for minimum wage and a rotten fruit basket while upskilling themselves in their own private time?
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Migrants to Germany account for 30.2% of the total population. Is Germany not enough diverse for you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany
From your own link 30% is the widest definition possible: > As of 2024, around 17.4 million people living in Germany, or 20.9% of the population, are first-generation immigrants, while the population with a migrant background in the wider sense stood at approximately 25.2 million, accounting for 30.2% of the total population of 83.5 million Thats a very misleading statistic
"Migrant background" is really broad indeed, it takes just one parent who wasn't born with a German parent to be considered as having a "background". Also most of them are EU migrants
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#64The job market all over the world is ultimately changing. Wars, AI, energy crisis, etc. — it’s a combination of factors. Yet, the article is too shallow, so it doesn’t clarify much. The two examples are not really representative, “press spokesman at a small industry association” and entry-level “apprenticeship in marketing communications and a bachelor’s degree in international management”. I don’t want to say that t…
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Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes
#65The job market all over the world is ultimately changing. Wars, AI, energy crisis, etc. — it’s a combination of factors. Yet, the article is too shallow, so it doesn’t clarify much. The two examples are not really representative, “press spokesman at a small industry association” and entry-level “apprenticeship in marketing communications and a bachelor’s degree in international management”. I don’t want to say that t…
And here I have the same impression: there's a lot of talk and very little action (not nothing, just too little in comparison). An important source of problem identification talk is the opposition, which noticed that to criticize is very easy, it attracts attention and supporters, while actually FIXING things is a shitload of work and better leave it for the others. It reminds me of a recent read about Locard's exchange principle: every contact will bring something into the scene and leave with something from it, and the opposition cannot stand to be washed down by actually trying to fix something.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There are jobs, but not the ones most people want. There is no such thing as a shortage in labor markets. There is just people not willing to pay the correct price.
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that will not restore the job market... it'd just create an American system of struggle where you need to do doordash to make ends meet
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#68One could reasonably have expected much worse than "just" automotive and energy intensive sectors in crisis in Germany. The Russian invasion of Ukraine. The Trump administration actively shrinking the economic cake worldwide. Its active economic and cultural warfare against Europe. Nothing to sneeze at. Germany and by extension the EU have shown remarkable resilience for now. The question what will happen next should…
Carmakers in Germany has a bit of blame for not moving quickly enough, but China hogging materials doesn't help. The chemical sector hit though feels more self-inflicted by the government that closed down nuclear plants to rely on Russian gas. The annoying part (Nordstream unrelated) is that they didn't see it fit to put a brake on the nuclear decomissioning already in 2014 when Russia invaded Ukraine first.
Define quickly. The problems are known for 10+ years, the calling is around for even longer. Germany car-industry has been stagnating for decades, rotting through the system even today, years after all those crises have starting killing it.
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And who are these people?
Indians. Well educated, hard working, and willing to put in 20 years of serfdom to get that green card. Even a 30% discount on wages is still a better quality of life than their alternatives. If they were granted proper work visas with portability then wages would go up. That's why Elon and co love H1Bs.
India recently reached below-replacement fertility rate - if examples from other countries are anything to go by, sooner or later the Indian government will implement aggressive anti-brain-drain policies.
Germany has relied on immigration since the 1960s at least. The immigrants won't save them now, as there are too many factors working against that.
-USA can offer higher wages.
-EU members to the east can offer significantly lower taxes for specialists and lower costs of living in some respects.
-As mentioned before, India itself might be facing shortages soon enough.
Personally, I'm not seeing it.
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#70Jokes on FT, we have both
I am not so sure we really have or had both. Maybe for roles like electrician and tiler and such. But for roles like teachers, I feel it is not the case, or policy makers are extremely stupid here. The hurdles for someone to become a teacher without having studied that are still very high. It doesn't seem like policies a nation would implement, if they really wanted more teachers. For example you need to have 500h of…
In comparison, Switzerland recognized the problems in the education system and... I know somebody, former construction foreman, now working as a primary school teacher - also doing some pedagogy courses in parallel. Is this better? Probably better than nothing, although far from ideal. But, would it be smarter to just wait, waist deep in the dumpster, for ideal solutions?