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Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#61
If you want to do some fun hacking project, Temu and similar websites are a trove of insecure cheap IoT devices made with almost 0 security consideration. Security camera, car chargers, sport tracking devices, etc.

If you are a bad actor, that is also probably a very easy way to find new ways to enroll devices in your botnet.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#62

I'd be shocked if the Ring doorbells were materially more secure. I sit firmly in the "only smart device is my printer and I keep a loaded gun next to it in case it makes a weird noise" camp.

Your printer doesn't make weird noises?

Nope, just the usual things a printer mumbles to itself when it thinks it’s alone.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#63

I wonder how I would feel about that, if I was alone at home, and lonely. Would it cheer me that people were reaching out and ringing my doorbell? Or would it make me sad because I would be reminded that there was not a friend ringing at the door?

I'd like my doorbell camera to have a cat detector and a meow detector so when my cats meow at the door, it rings the doorbell. My cats have gps collars and distinctive fur and meows, so it could double check so other cats can't spam me. That way each cat could have its own distinctive ring (like their distinctive meow, amplified).

Please, It's much safer to keep them indoors where they can't kill songbirds, crap on the neighbours kids lawn or get run over.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#64
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nowadays smartphones do credible document scanning for most consumer use cases. iPhones had this built in before COVID at the latest. Now do 40 pages, front-and-back, with your smartphone.

That's not "most consumer use cases". I have not once in my entire life had to scan 40 pages at once. I bet I've never done more than 15 at once. For the once in a blue moon that I need to scan 40 double-sided pages I'd just go to my local print shop.

You don't do much bureaucracy in your personal life (mortgages, moving around, children, or just keeping things as they are). I do similar things few times per year on average, and I don't do anything exceptional.

Plus living in a village, closest printing shop is maybe 10 minutes by drive. Scanner and good printer is a basic need in 2026.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#65
post #41
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are way more indicators than just a doorbell. Closed curtains, car not in driveway, lights out ...

Well my curtains and light open and close on a schedule so they won’t tell them much. Also who can afford to drive to work anymore?

That didn't stop the thieves in Home Alone...

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#66

I'd be shocked if the Ring doorbells were materially more secure. I sit firmly in the "only smart device is my printer and I keep a loaded gun next to it in case it makes a weird noise" camp.

Funny thing, that. They actually have Activation Lock (of sorts).

I regret it now but a few years back someone had moved into a home, dumped their Ring doorbell that came with the house, and we shoved it on our house. When we went to set it up Ring blocked the setup attempt because it was account bound.

... Apparently if you call Ring to release it (they can), frontline CS can see the entire log of when the doorbell was online, when it was last rung, and used that information to go "oh, it hasn't been rang in like eight months" to decide that I wasn't some criminal and that I can set up the doorbell myself.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#68

Am I the only one who eventually got irritated by the LLM-like writing style? It's not quite the usual fare, but it became hard to ignore by the end.

Yes, I stopped reading here:

> $12 on the front. Whole-network compromise on the back.

Too bad since the topic on its own seems very interesting.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

#69

Am I the only one who eventually got irritated by the LLM-like writing style? It's not quite the usual fare, but it became hard to ignore by the end.

I find it completely unreadable and give up within a paragraph or 2 every single time.

I say that as someone who uses LLMs daily too, and isn't a hater of them. Nothing wrong with using an LLM to help come up with content wording or to proof-read your writing etc etc, but just copy-pasting LLM output directly into a blog is lazy and instantly signals that it's not worth my time to read it.

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