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Re: WinCE64 – Windows CE 2.11 for N64

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“It sounded good.” https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20211214-00/?p=10...

> Why every advertising agency needs to have a review panel of twelve-year-old boys https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20080501-01/?p=22... Don't miss that link in the above!

Not sure it's the brightest idea to pick a name based on what a 12-year-old thinks is cool, but ok

Re: WinCE64 – Windows CE 2.11 for N64

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Tl;dr wince team forked visual studio 6 (I think it was 6, I don't recall it was long ago) to make a custom UI and a tool called platform builder. This was needed because VS didn't have the extensibility needed to do this without source access. The fork got more and more out of date and it is hard to justify spending resources on an internal tool like that. WinCE was incredible but what was shipped to customers was a…

Huh? CE7 platform builder is just extension to stock VS2008. And it doesn't really do much, just few treeviews for selecting components. The real issue is the build system, which is some hideous combination of bat files and nmake. Kernel is the only part that seems written with any sort of care, everything else is barely holding together with duct tape.

Earlier PBs were a complete hard fork of VS. I was out of the show by the time the CE7 PB came along.

Re: WinCE64 – Windows CE 2.11 for N64

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I certainly thought the c. 2001 PDAs under the PocketPC brand were absolutely sick. My hot take is that if the US telecom industry had by that year built out a network of good 3G coverage, those PocketPC devices would have of course had cellular capability, and would have sold like hotcakes, and would have become the basis, the ‘trope originator’ if you will, for Mobile computing. What iPhone was in our timeline. I t…

I don’t know, I remember them being great from a HW point of view (I had an iPAQ 514 and it was mindblowing even without touch and just a tiny screen), but UX wise… I now have another iPAQ with a stylus and touchscreen, and I’m grateful back then I did not have it nor the mobile version of Age of Empires… it’s addictive stuff and a crazy good port. I don’t remember anything so good on PalmOS 5 (we had a Garmin iQue 3…

They were great from a hardware point of view!! I'm just saying adoption was held back, compared to what it was in 2008-2010, because most of the things people lost their minds about in the later era were the always-networked type of things: Fast and accurate texting, web browsing, Google Maps, watching YouTube or Netflix on the bus or as you enjoy your lunch break at work. All those things require Internet and most people who might have (or did) buy an iPaq etc. would have usually not had access to Wi-Fi in most of those places and 3G data wouldn't come around (the US at least!) for a few more years.

We did see Windows Mobile 2G and 3G smartphones a year or two pre-iPhone, though, so maybe I'm full of it and that platform somehow didn't have something else the mass market wanted.

Re: WinCE64 – Windows CE 2.11 for N64

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> Why every advertising agency needs to have a review panel of twelve-year-old boys https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20080501-01/?p=22... Don't miss that link in the above!

Not sure it's the brightest idea to pick a name based on what a 12-year-old thinks is cool, but ok

It’s the opposite - if a 12-year-old thinks it’s cool it probably needs a rethink.

Re: WinCE64 – Windows CE 2.11 for N64

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Not sure it's the brightest idea to pick a name based on what a 12-year-old thinks is cool, but ok

It’s the opposite - if a 12-year-old thinks it’s cool it probably needs a rethink.

It's that if a 12 year old boy can't stop laughing at the name, it's a bad one. Negative signal rather than a positive one. eg expertsexchange.com
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