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Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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Knowledge doesn’t neatly align to a nested hierarchy. Especially written knowledge. Language is an imperfect means to convey knowledge, and people store that knowledge in subjective and highly personal ways. You may mentally recall balloons within “entertainment” or “party”, whereas I might store that knowledge under “horror”. Add onto that the massive focus on using graph theory to scale social networking technologi…

A folder system doesn't have to be strictly rigid, you can still have "symlinks" so the same article appearing in different folders (aka labels if you can easily duplicate content inside folders, but you retain the nested, drill-down approach)

Wikimedia Commons has this feature. Editors can manually bless certain combinations of traits as "subcategories".

For example, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Paintings_of_cas... contains the subcategories "Paintings of castles by country" (nested hierarchy), "Frescos of castles" (a medium), "Paintings of Château de Chillon" (a subject), and "Young Knight in a Landscape by Carpaccio" (multiple views onto a specific item). Each item may appear in multiple subcategories. As far as I can tell, the UI won't let you search for frescos of Italian castles (unless somebody's made a subcategory for that), or view all paintings of castles regardless of their subcategory.

I'm not very fond of this approach. I'd prefer for each item to have an unstructured set of tags ("fresco", "depiction of a castle", "depiction of Italy"), with automatic derivation of parent tags ("fresco" implies "painting") and the option to search by multiple tags. It should be possible to automatically discover tags which best refine a search, so that the UI can still suggest them to the user, as it does today.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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The shininess looks a bit more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Media_Center_Editio... and not like the regular Windows XP, but still a fun project!

Definitely not MCE: the title bars are bright blue with the "Fisher-Price" orange buttons, which was the hallmark of regular XP.

Yeah it's def going for an XP clone feel. Although it's not 1:1, I assume to skirt copyright.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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love how it loads instantly and feels smooth. imo useless but still cool

> love how it loads instantly and feels smooth. Unlike Wikipedia these days.

Is this sarcasm? Doesn't Wikipedia look identical to 10 years ago and still load instantly?

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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Ok this is a genuinely perfect way to research an entire field by article instead of having to jump recursively link to link and forgetting what you were doing 5 minutes ago. I've never seen wikipedia from this categorized vantage point. If we're being real their UX is kinda crap outside the usual search->article->link flow and could use a complete rework.

Lucky 10000?

Three tricks if you didn't already know:

1: you'll find categories at the bottom of regular mediawiki pages

2: if you click one, you'll end up on a page like eg. this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Computers

3: the tree style tabs plugin in combination with middle-click is criminally underrated for navigating hierarchical data. (middleclick open-in-new-tab is only mildly handy, tree style tabs seems tepid by itself without it)

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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Incredibly beautiful, possibly because it maps so well to the mental model we typically use to organize knowledge in our heads. I don't know how we lost the folder/container vs. document/content iconography, and other things (like layout of items, sorting) during the shift to web applications.

I agree, for some reason I have always alternated between wanting not just the universal search box but a browsable hierarchy to mentally run my fingers over and discover in a structured way.

We let go of the the manual index somewhere along the way since it doesn’t scale like search, obviously, but for the same reason I keep a library and enjoy traversing others’ private ones and visiting public ones, I keep coming back to browse.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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post #28

Incredibly beautiful, possibly because it maps so well to the mental model we typically use to organize knowledge in our heads. I don't know how we lost the folder/container vs. document/content iconography, and other things (like layout of items, sorting) during the shift to web applications.

This is why I frequently post about how I miss Gopher. It kind of forced this hierarchy.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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post #56

Large scrollbars! Windows with borders! What a relief! This has become a forgotten art: we focus so much on CONTENT these days that we forget that people want to use the mouse to scroll, and use the mouse to resize windows.

Hm. It is a clear UI, but I would prefer more space for the content.
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