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Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by em-bee »

queenkjuul wrote: post #56
em-bee wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an LLM generated website if I’ve ever seen one the explanation for that is here https://youtu.be/II2QF9JwtLc basically louis found that not using AI to design his website drastically reduced the hits he would get from google.

That doesn't excuse the fake careers page

i think it does. you have to think through the development process here. if we start with the promise that an AI generated site gets more hits, then you'd want to change as little as possible from what the AI generates by hand. yes it's dumb, but the whole premise of generating a website with AI is dumb to begin with.

i'd say that when louis discovered that AI websites work better, it broke him in that regard. the choice is now creating a website that i own, as in "this is mine, i made this". or a website that works with google. but i'd want to distance myself from that website as far as possible. "i didn't make this myself, i needed this for google. i don't want to touch it"

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by starkeeper »

queenkjuul wrote: post #56
em-bee wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an LLM generated website if I’ve ever seen one the explanation for that is here https://youtu.be/II2QF9JwtLc basically louis found that not using AI to design his website drastically reduced the hits he would get from google.

That doesn't excuse the fake careers page

It's not fake? Why do you think it is fake?

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by Barbing »

Dusseldorf wrote: post #57
mh- wrote: post #48

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I'm curious what concise phrase you'd display to convey the same information to that audience. "Computer Vision Model and Nozzle Telemetry Analysis Detect Print Error"?

"Print Error Detected"?

“Print Error Detected (Maybe?)”

This isn’t a PC Load Letter we can trust!

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by dakolli »

djfergus wrote: post #40

What is Bambu’s motivation here? What do they get for damaging their credibility like this? Just usage data? Training a model on everyone’s STL files?

Probably regulations, there are a few states trying to make it illegal for felons to own 3D printers by EOY. These things are about to get regulated like firearms, which is wild.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by foxylad »

bri3d wrote: post #7

This looks to be a clone of the prior state of the repository that caused all the Bambu drama earlier this week. I did a ton of research because I didn't understand what people wanted here, and this is what's going on: Right now, Bambu have adjusted their system into two modalities: * "default" or "Cloud" mode, where you get an app, remote monitoring, but you have to use Bambu Studio or Bambu Connect to send prints.…

> What users want...

Take a step back. What users want is to be able to use the machine they bought the way they want. The outrage is because Bambu are doing a bait-and-switch: selling an autonomous 3D printer, but switching to a 3D printing service. Enshittification pure and simple.

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Post by weaksauce »

stavros wrote: post #26
bri3d wrote: post #7

This looks to be a clone of the prior state of the repository that caused all the Bambu drama earlier this week. I did a ton of research because I didn't understand what people wanted here, and this is what's going on: Right now, Bambu have adjusted their system into two modalities: * "default" or "Cloud" mode, where you get an app, remote monitoring, but you have to use Bambu Studio or Bambu Connect to send prints.…

Why should I have to send all my prints to Bambu when the printer is sitting right next to me? Why do I have to choose between being able to stop my printer remotely or Bambu not tracking my every move, when it's trivial to have both?

it's because you're the product and they want the designs i think

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by eddythompson80 »

amazingamazing wrote: post #16

I have an Ender3 that I use plugging in a microsd card to do prints with. What am I missing here? Seems like you can do the same with these printers. People want to use the cloud?

Even with an Ender3 many, including myself, would connect it to a raspberryPi with octoprint to be able to send prints over the network. The SD card flow gets very tedious very quickly.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by SequoiaHope »

bri3d wrote: post #7

This looks to be a clone of the prior state of the repository that caused all the Bambu drama earlier this week. I did a ton of research because I didn't understand what people wanted here, and this is what's going on: Right now, Bambu have adjusted their system into two modalities: * "default" or "Cloud" mode, where you get an app, remote monitoring, but you have to use Bambu Studio or Bambu Connect to send prints.…

On our Bambu H2D Pro printers at work, we can print in cloud mode and LAN mode at the same time. Bambu literally has this firmware built but they reserve it for “pro” users. The other thing pro users can do is disable cloud without any developer mode stuff. Of course we do this.

Excellent machines by the way, primarily let down by the proprietary binary Bambu forces users to use for LAN mode which is extremely buggy and slow on Linux, and entirely technically unnecessary.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by miladyincontrol »

bdcravens wrote: post #53
bri3d wrote: post #42

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No, the binaries aren’t necessary in LAN + Developer mode.

Correct - you can send prints over MQTT

Yeah, I have most the 'cloud' functionality all done 100% locally through home assistant. Its been pretty comfy.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Post by ThatPlayer »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #13
drum55 wrote: post #6

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I’ve been running mine offline for years, I don’t know why other people haven’t been. They’re the only competent and reliable printer that isn’t a project car in itself, but they’re obviously not completely trustworthy. Easily fixed with an air gap, updates work just great from a USB drive.

I tried it but switched back to the online mode because being able to remotely check in via the app is very useful to check the print hasn't failed.

Another feature locked behind the app is individual part cancelling which is nice for partial print failures.
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