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The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Speaking of bullshittery, I don't really appreciate it's little game when it comes to trying to convince me to turn off JavaScript. It knows when you see it and you'll know when you see it.

As someone who likes to half read an article then come back to it later, this actually pissed me off. Messing with your favicon and the tab title so I can't actually find your article to finish reading it later feels hostile towards users like me. As such I blocked this URL entirely. I don't care what their motive behind it is, if you want to act sus then I don't want to be on your website.

Not amused by it editing my tab and icon to a Google Maps search pin for "adult entertainment clubs" on my work computer. OK, maybe a little.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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TIL HN still doesn't support rfc3492, 23 years after it was published, and so this domain is not rendered correctly on the site. :( (It should appear as: マリウス.com )

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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> I found myself in one of the rare situations in which I was mindlessly doom-scrolling on LinkedIn Yet, the biggest bullshittery, is every company that almost each of you work at requires a link to a LinkedIn account on every job application, not optional. It has become a form of social credit. LinkedIn isn't completely meaningless either. A huge portion of the posts are also propaganda. Finding a new job is tied to…

Having a LinkedIn profile and doomscrolling the LinkedIn feed are two entirely separate activities.

Most people create a profile and update it when they're job searching, but they don't visit LinkedIn or interact with the feed at all.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that sounds like making friends.

In order to make friends you kind of need to have spaces where you can meet people and trust them enough to make connections In person is obviously the safest for this. For online friendships I feel the places to meet people you can trust aren't AI or Scammers has shrunk a ton

A reasonable approach is the one that was used in real life: friends of friends can be invited to the space for compatibility screening.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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>started rewarding people who know how to look like they do [know what they are doing].

These days I'm wondering whether even that matters anymore. Fastest way to get rich these days seems to be insider trading, scams, onlyfans, leveraging addictions etc.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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I think the converse of this is also true. People who do something good are derided for being unprofessional for not adhering to some cosmetic standard.

You can hardly blame people who make fancy websites for projects which look cool but you can't tell what it is they have to offer. If the alternative is a plain simple 'here it is, it does this' followed by a pile-on of armchair critics who have already decided on the quality of your project because your page lacks razzmatazz.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Been noticing this new phenotype of tech bro who writes with an air of superiority, subtly belittling all those beneath him. Also ardently believes in - bullshit jobs - enshittification - kubernetes being a psyop - tech landscape was best exactly during his career peak and has gone down since

The second two are typical conservative tech-bro "the past was always better" type bs.

The first two are actual real effects of the complex world that we live in. Go back 150 years or so ago and most jobs were not bullshit jobs. That is, humanity spent most of its time trying to feed and clothe ourselves and if you weren't one of the few people with money then "not starving next winter" was pretty high on your list of priorities in working.

With the rise of industrialization, mechination, and transportation most of our needs can be met pretty easily (if society optimizes itself for that is a totally different story). It is highly that your job at this point has anything to do with continued human survival and instead you're working on some kind of revenue generation for some company.

This couples well with enshittification. It took a good part of said industrial revolution to learn how to make things of all kinds and make them reliably. But it turns out too much reliability isn't profitable over the long term. Getting your customer on an upgrade treadmill where they constantly give you more money makes you huge. You'll be able to get huge loans and buy up your reliable competition.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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>an awful lot of modern professional life consists of producing artifacts whose primary audience is other people producing artifacts. Slide decks for slide decks, strategy documents about strategy documents This is because thinking, communication, and collaboration are extremely valuable.

Yeah, but there's a point here. Are you comfortable with financial derivatives? Derivatives of derivatives? Futures of futures at the 4th, 5th or 50th order? The point being that if you go too far from the substance of things then you've lost the plot.

Engineers, especially SWEs, have lots of aphorisms to discourage exactly this and try to put it into professional doctrine and culture. (YAGNI, KISS, secondary-systems syndrome, etc)

Most people in management, finance, politics etc won't ever see it as bad unless they actually receive bad feedback. But bad feedback never comes if the incentive structures are broken (that's the point of TFA)

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Using a throwaway for this comment, but my first experience with this kind of thing was in 2013 when I joined a major international company with over 100k employees worldwide and realized that there were entire departments and organizations dedicated to delivering no value at all. Departments with 100s of people, with middle managers making several times the average salary in my country, where after years of work not…

I was shocked by this as well. I think it's a natural property of large organizations and it takes great effort and great leaders to fight it.

The way I think about it is that building something truly successful comes with a tremendous amount of momentum. So much momentum that growth for these companies still occurs.

The people hired into a mature organization are literally there just to keep the lights on and let the momentum do its work. They also create and grow their little fiefdoms.

You can try and build something and innovate there, but it takes a deeply concerted effort to try and sustain it. Even if something is made wildly successful and is growing 50-100% year over year, it still likely pales in comparison to the 0.005% growth of the large core business.

Even if the new innovation is given space to breath, it can be killed at any point by the core business as the fiefdoms look over and say: that should be part of my org, or those resources can be better spent on the core business. So instead of waiting the years it takes for the new, small thing to grow large enough to be important it is easily killed by the parts of the organization just keeping the lights on.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order to make friends you kind of need to have spaces where you can meet people and trust them enough to make connections In person is obviously the safest for this. For online friendships I feel the places to meet people you can trust aren't AI or Scammers has shrunk a ton

A reasonable approach is the one that was used in real life: friends of friends can be invited to the space for compatibility screening.

Yeah of course

It makes it very, very hard to start from zero though. Like starting over in a new city

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