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590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Re: 590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Post by rootusrootus »

antonvs wrote: post #28
epistasis wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly it, I see it in my family members. They are willing to sacrifice so much money and, well, everything to the "cause." It's a cult, and it's deranged. These sorts of scams go on continually in email lists, and vulnerable people just hand over their hard-earned money fist over fist. Pointing out what's going on makes the family member hate whoever points out the con, rather than the con man. If anything,…

What's the cause exactly? Make America a white evangelical "paradise"?

I think it really is just the simpler explanation, they have decided they hate anybody left of them, and defeating them is the cause which much be won at all costs.

I have plenty of these folks in my family. Perfectly nice people otherwise. But they have this huge conception of the evil liberals and all the bad things they must do. They really do think liberals are commies, for example. Like actually believe that. Never mind that you could probably fit all the communists in the US in a single stadium, but whatever. When I try to engage in a conversation about actual issues, they refuse to engage, just devolving right back into plain old identity politics.

Makes me kind of sad in a way. We could be having much more interesting debates about how to solve the real world problems we face, but instead the argument is about whether or not the problems even exist.

Re: 590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Post by hughw »

sanid wrote: post #60

Assuming this was not a scam from the beginning. I just think they got more orders than they expected. This seems to be a reskinned HTC U24 Pro (I think earlier Images and specs were advertising another phone). Also seems to have changed from "produced in the USA" to "Designed with American values in mind" & "With American teams helping guide design and quality" according to their website. At best this is bait and sw…

Bait and switch is a scam.

Re: 590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Post by esseph »

rootusrootus wrote: post #44
iamkrazy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Notably, Biden would have gotten the 25th treatment instantly, with not a hint of loyalty from Democratic voters. Trump has a level of loyalty from Republican voters that is unprecedented in modern US history. Why is that?

Because he's their golden calf

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

Re: 590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Post by rootusrootus »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #43
AntiUSAbah wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only in a libertarian society. Education wasn't enforced to a big part of our society and it shows.

There's nothing libertarian about MAGA. It's all about using the immense power of government to hurt the right people, and seizing every opportunity to grow and expand that power with that same goal in mind.

> There's nothing libertarian about MAGA

Nor conservative, for that matter, aside from some nostalgic dream of social conservatism, I suppose. My MAGA family members love to talk about conservatism as some noble thing, often describing it in neat, simple, pragmatic terms, and then are dumbfounded when confronted with the notion that they don't act according to those principles at all. They still see themselves as conservative, oddly enough.

Re: 590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Post by jerlam »

Cheyana wrote: post #9

“ The device would work with Trump Mobile's service plan. For $47.45 per month, Trump Mobile's "47 Plan" (2), which operates on the T-Mobile network, claims to be "better than the rest," offering 100% U.S.-based support; extensive 5G coverage; unlimited talk, text and data; telehealth services; roadside assistance, and international calling to over 230 countries and territories.” If you fell for that you deserve to l…

A lot of people are still on ancient plans like $80/5GB since they don't know they can change providers and still keep their number. Or they're old and avoid changing any aspect of their lives. The mobile companies are fine with "grandfathering" these customers.

Re: 590k buyers paid $59M for Trump's gold phone, but not one has shipped

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Post by rootusrootus »

xnx wrote: post #46

Recent and related comment: "I can’t prove it, but it feels like the world recently decided that spamming/scamming is acceptable..." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48094961

100% a demonstration that who we elect as a leader absolutely does set the tone for the rest of the country. I have lived through two elections of Donald Trump and both times the shift in what kinds of behavior were socially acceptable was palpable within hours. Like a lot of people suddenly decided they could come out and be their true self, it just turned out that it was gleefully ugly and hateful.
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