The result will be age verification with a passport or ID "to protect the children". Probably this was the goal all along.
The EU age id app is this, with some extra privacy hurdles (the id is only on your phone not on the remote server).
Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
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Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you are back to > what if we didn't try to shoehorn a stupid and unworkable technological solution into this problem space
Depends on how you end that sentence. If you end it with "and make a good easy to use technical solution instead" then you found my stance. If you end it with "and just...made parents responsible for their kids?" like GP then no that's not my stance at all.
That assumes a good easy to use technical solution is possible. What if classifying user-generated content as safe for kids is enormously subjective, and the labor required to accurately classify it even given a hypothetical objective standard would cost more than users are willing to pay to have it done?
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#63The next age verification tech will involve checking tallness so we'll have kids standing on eachother's shoulders in a big trenchcoat to do the very adult act of installing linux.
Let's be realistic here. All this age verification stuff is pseudoscience and more importantly it isn't tested or standardized at all. It's just theater so the creeps get all the data on your children they can.
Meta has made a killing, literally, exploiting children psychology. Social media is the orphan crunching machine for nonorphans or something.
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you are back to > what if we didn't try to shoehorn a stupid and unworkable technological solution into this problem space
Depends on how you end that sentence. If you end it with "and make a good easy to use technical solution instead" then you found my stance. If you end it with "and just...made parents responsible for their kids?" like GP then no that's not my stance at all.
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's one idea. I have a different one. What if we...now hear me out....what if we didn't try to shoehorn a stupid and unworkable technological solution into this problem space and just...made parents responsible for their kids?
Parents who work fulltime, some even more than one job?
I get a hard tech-bro vibe who like to blame others to deflect from responsibilty of their technology
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#66They also use VPNs, as anyone would have predicted within two seconds. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn72ydj70g5o Consequently, we're now discussing VPN bans for under 18 year olds . https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn438z3ejxyo
It's basically the leading reason why quantum computing is being funded. They gotta break your encryption to read your activity.
Pretty sad world.
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#67The next age verification tech will involve checking tallness so we'll have kids standing on eachother's shoulders in a big trenchcoat to do the very adult act of installing linux.
Lol. Or standing next to a dollhouse or something. Let's be realistic here. All this age verification stuff is pseudoscience and more importantly it isn't tested or standardized at all. It's just theater so the creeps get all the data on your children they can. Meta has made a killing, literally, exploiting children psychology. Social media is the orphan crunching machine for nonorphans or something.
Abdicating responsibility, standards and government enforcement are three of white collar America's favorite things.
Seems like an opportunity for someone to become a billionaire by creating a standardization and licensing agency and then paying for some shills to get the ball rolling. Give it 5yr and everyone will have to do business with you lest the feds kick in their door. Give it 10yr and the useful idiots will be in the comment section talking about how XYZ age verification mechanism must be good because it's "certified" by your garbage and that the sky will fall if we get rid of it.
I hope I'm too jaded, but frankly I don't think I'm jaded enough.
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol. Or standing next to a dollhouse or something. Let's be realistic here. All this age verification stuff is pseudoscience and more importantly it isn't tested or standardized at all. It's just theater so the creeps get all the data on your children they can. Meta has made a killing, literally, exploiting children psychology. Social media is the orphan crunching machine for nonorphans or something.
>All this age verification stuff is pseudoscience and more importantly it isn't tested or standardized at all. It's just theater Abdicating responsibility, standards and government enforcement are three of white collar America's favorite things. Seems like an opportunity for someone to become a billionaire by creating a standardization and licensing agency and then paying for some shills to get the ball rolling. Give…
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#69What if politicians are creating these systems that are easy to bypass so they have an excuse for starting to officially ID everyone?
Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Parents who work fulltime, some even more than one job?
There are computing and communication devices designed for kids to use. Stop handing your kids brand new iPads and complaining, especially if you aren't willing to use parental controls.