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Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by timacles »

nilirl wrote: post #9

How does a human designer even compete? I just looked at all the demos and they look beautiful. I hand designed my site https://www.nair.sh/ and it feels like it doesn't even compare. Sure, there's some judgment as to what design is appropriate in a given situation, but it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now.

We are soon going to converge on all websites looking exactly the same, we’re almost there really

It’s just the same sterile template used for everything, yeah it looks good first time you See it. But the 100th? It starts to look like noise

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by esafak »

nilirl wrote: post #59
esafak wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or isn't it? You are one step away from deploying superficially impressive things, without understanding what is lacking.

Yes, lacking for the expert. To the non-expert, probably acceptable, even impressive.

That is precisely my point. The non-expert won't know what is missing and will be impressed, and there might be a price to pay. How would you like to trust your data to my vibe coded database, safety to my vibe coded mechanical designs, and health to my vibed up diagnosis?

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by Keyframe »

ricardobeat wrote: post #3

The README is unnerving. Do people really see the Claude-salesman style of writing as something normal? On the other hand, I should be thanking Anthropic for making it so easy to spot, they might have done this intentionally.

This insufferable period of AI will eventually come to an end. We just have to power through as people get fed by it. Mindless writeups, social media posts, emails, cold calls.. they all bear common trait of no to low effort and it shows. It's as vapid and empty as the impulse that thought it would be a good idea. Some of us consciously go by the rule that if you haven't bothered to write, we're not going to bother to read.. rest will grow into the same mindset. Spam farms pretending to be sales optimizations, linkedin lunatics with "valuable messages", low effort slackers larping to be engineers.. it's all going to go away and true value will prevail. Right now, it's not too much different than nigerian prince letters, industrialized.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by nilirl »

esafak wrote: post #63
nilirl wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, lacking for the expert. To the non-expert, probably acceptable, even impressive.

That is precisely my point. The non-expert won't know what is missing and will be impressed, and there might be a price to pay. How would you like to trust your data to my vibe coded database, safety to my vibe coded mechanical designs, and health to my vibed up diagnosis?

What I'd said: it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now

I'm talking about competition; being valuable within a market; being seen as useful by others.

Maybe my focus on competition wasn't well communicated but you're making a precise but irrelevant point about personal integrity.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by javier123454321 »

jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

This is true if you that assume the only purpose of design is aesthetic differentiation. There actually is a lot of science in how you scan information in a design, how it's presented, the visual hierarchy, grouping and things that actually have utility in and off itself.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by esafak »

nilirl wrote: post #65
esafak wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is precisely my point. The non-expert won't know what is missing and will be impressed, and there might be a price to pay. How would you like to trust your data to my vibe coded database, safety to my vibe coded mechanical designs, and health to my vibed up diagnosis?

What I'd said: it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now I'm talking about competition; being valuable within a market; being seen as useful by others. Maybe my focus on competition wasn't well communicated but you're making a precise but irrelevant point about personal integrity.

Maybe I misunderstood. I agree that not all buyers may appreciate the difference, and experts should educate them. Sometimes the price of their ignorance will educate them too.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by SR2Z »

jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

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