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City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Isolated information isn't a problem. If it takes effort to access information then mass information abuse doesn't scale, it is free of cost, and consequence, access that is the issue here. Flock is attempting to destroy barriers to access around real time surveillance. There is a clear distinction between someone having a business surveillance system that points at the street that the police can get access to with s…

IOW, Flock is building the Telescreen from 1984.

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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> “The city of Dunwoody is one city in our demo partner program,” a Flock spokesperson told 404 Media. “The cities involved in this program have authorized select Flock employees to demonstrate new products and features as we develop them in partnership with the city. the two things i still dont understand are: 1) why is there not a dedicated demo environment for demos, like practically every other software? i cant t…

Answer to 1 is simple and obvious based on Flocks previous actions: they have no idea what they are doing and are reacting instead of planning.

or they have exact idea what they are doing and don't give a shit

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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> There is too much opportunity for crime, and a camera is cheap. The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it. Even when it doesn't it will not prevent the crime from happening. It _may_ provide you an opportunity to prosecute the person who committed it. In reality the only real reason to have one is to reduce your insurance premiums. > crime has been solved A perpetrator was potentially caught and now ha…

> The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it. Even when it doesn't it will not prevent the crime from happening. It _may_ provide you an opportunity to prosecute the person who committed it. And that is worth something in itself, at least in areas where disputes between people are the norm. Gyms in particular suffer from theft to sexual harassment.

> Gyms in particular suffer from theft to sexual harassment.

And is there any evidence that deploying cameras has changed the rate?

Do you want to punish people or do you want to prevent people from being victimized in the first place?

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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> “The city of Dunwoody is one city in our demo partner program,” a Flock spokesperson told 404 Media. “The cities involved in this program have authorized select Flock employees to demonstrate new products and features as we develop them in partnership with the city. the two things i still dont understand are: 1) why is there not a dedicated demo environment for demos, like practically every other software? i cant t…

I’ve seen dozens of these types of demos and it’s always live footage from a semi public place like this. It’s much easier to just show live footage rather than rig up canned looping footage. It’s pretty astonishing how no one watching the demo with me seems to care. No one asking “Hey, will you just be able to do this with our video if we buy from you?”

Does this mean there is no testing environment?

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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> There is too much opportunity for crime, and a camera is cheap. The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it. Even when it doesn't it will not prevent the crime from happening. It _may_ provide you an opportunity to prosecute the person who committed it. In reality the only real reason to have one is to reduce your insurance premiums. > crime has been solved A perpetrator was potentially caught and now ha…

> The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it. That's why I periodically leave a bunch of bicycles with cheap locks downtown. They act like a kind of criminal sacrificial anode, reducing crime in the rest of the city.

That's why the police don't enforce drug laws in _particular_ areas.

What you describe is obviously already happening on a much larger scale.

I'm not sure why people have trouble grasping something this basic.

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Any sane business that has lots of random people coming in will have cameras recording (except in bathrooms/locker rooms). There is too much opportunity for crime, and a camera is cheap. If something happens you pull up the feed from the last month and give the interesting parts to the police; most often you just delete everything after a month. More than one crime has been solved this way. That said, if there wasn't…

The problem isn't having cameras. Its that these cameras should be closed circuit with data residing locally, not being sent to a 3rd party that has full access to the video streams, and who processes them, combines them with other parties, resells data from them, or hands them over without a warrant!

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Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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That little man has eroded any respect that he might have been a priori granted with his publicly documented descent into a vibecoding mania. I'm still in disbelief that the very silly photographer guy is the CEO of ycombinator. Ah well, it was a good era.

He's using AI assistants and excited about it. So is Linux Torvalds, and all my other programming friends.

To the best of my knowledge Linus Torvalds isn't posting walls of text to Github breathlessly announcing he's 810x-ed [1] his "logical lines of code/day" compared to what he was doing in 2013.

And, lest you think generating "600,000 lines of production code in 60 days" [2] is potentially problematic, has also fully solved the primary failure modes of AI coding identified by Andrej Karpathy, once and for all: "Karpathy's four failure modes? Already covered." [1]

As someone who has experienced mania, including with a programming bent specifically, it's hard not to raise an eyebrow at the idiosyncratic human-y bits of his thinking floating up from the sea of em-dashes and it's not X it's Y in his manifestos.

Plus volunteering this [3] in an interview:

“I sleep, like, four hours a night right now,” he told his interviewer, fellow VC Bill Gurley, during an onstage interview Saturday. “I have cyber psychosis, but I think a third of the CEOs that I know have it as well,” he joked about his current AI obsession. (Tan’s assistant confirmed to us that he was joking. ...)

It’s like I was able to re-create my startup that took $10 million in VC capital and 10 people, and I worked on that for two years, and I took anti-narcoleptics — I remember, you know, sort of being on modafinil...

[1] https://github.com/garrytan/gstack

[2] https://github.com/garrytan/gstack/blob/main/docs/ON_THE_LOC...

[3] https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/17/why-garry-tans-claude-code...

Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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He's using AI assistants and excited about it. So is Linux Torvalds, and all my other programming friends.

To the best of my knowledge Linus Torvalds isn't posting walls of text to Github breathlessly announcing he's 810x -ed [1] his "logical lines of code/day" compared to what he was doing in 2013. And, lest you think generating " 600,000 lines of production code in 60 days " [2] is potentially problematic, has also fully solved the primary failure modes of AI coding identified by Andrej Karpathy, once and for all: "Karp…

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Re: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo

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Why would a gymnastics gym get robbed? It’s just a bunch of smelly equipment that’s hard to sell and probably very little cash.

It's the Marcus Jewish Community Center of Atlanta. Jewish Community Centers are targeted more for attacks than a YMCA.

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