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First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by masklinn »

chopete3 wrote: post #25

50,000 vehicles per year capacity is a lot. Is there really demand for so many vehicles?. >> This makes the Tesla Semi the lowest-priced Class 8 battery electric tractor on the market, How much is the difference?. Critical details left out. >> specs confirm a 500-mile range Aren't there trucks with this range already? >> "Tesla Semi as a Service" model is needed to eliminate the capital expenditure barrier entirely,…

Longuest I know of in Europe is Volvo’s claims of 700 on the new FH Aero ER. Renault and Iveco are at 600. And that would be at 90kph.

However manufacturers of euro models may not bother extending range given given the driving regulations: drivers can only drive 4.5h before a mandatory 45mn rest break, so as long as the truck does 400km[0] and can charge fast enough in 45mn to do that again afterwards[1] it’s probably going to do the job for long range trucking.

On the other hand, the eu allows electric semis to weigh 4 tonnes more than diesel, in the US it’s just 2000lbs and not every state has implemented that.

[0] 4.5h * 90kph

[1] assuming the fastest charge rates are 10~80, that means a 0-100 range of 580km to hit the sweet spot of 400km on 80~10, which matches Renault and Iveco, Volvo's FH Aero ER page talks about 20~80 which gets you to 670km

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Post by m101 »

egeozcan wrote: post #58
levocardia wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(which electric cars and trucks also reduce, because of regenerative braking)

My father who owns an electric car (I don't) told me that the increased torque eats away the tires much faster. Not sure how connected to the reality that is.

Increased forces from similar speeds but with more weight in cornering wears down tires more in electric cars. Less so the torque myths

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Post by coreyh14444 »

milleramp wrote: post #33

I hope so. Regardless of who does it, generations of children in Los Angeles growing up in the corridors of the 5,10,110,210,405,605,710 freeways have asthma, likely caused from the soot of diesel trucks. Edit, couldn't leave out the worst experience in the US, i405.

Born in 1975 in LA and have asthma. I suppose I'm pretty smart compared to most, but I do wonder if they had removed leaded gasoline earlier if I would have had a few more IQ points. So, yes, please do root for electric transportation!

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Post by DonHopkins »

darth_avocado wrote: post #35
narrator wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

My model 3 also “has” 350+ mile range. Barely goes 270 in the real world with conservative driving. Trucking needs a lot more.

"You're holding it wrong."

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Post by dzhiurgis »

7e wrote: post #26
narrator wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

Tesla has a history of exaggerating the ranges of their vehicles to an extent that competitors do not.

Got source for this?

IIRC they are right in the middle of pack.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

whateveracct wrote: post #38
mlmonkey wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But do they have Self Driving? A Semi with self-driving would be a game changer. I just got FSD v14.3.2 and it is quite impressive. I drove all over the Bay Area today (SF -> East Bay -> PA -> RWC -> back) and didn't have to touch the steering wheel practically at all.

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Post by DonHopkins »

defrost wrote: post #18
aidenn0 wrote: post #9

A 30 minute charge means each charger can service a maximum of 48 tractors per day, and realistically probably less than that. I wonder how many trucks fill at a typical diesel filling station per day.

Have you seen the demo's of "truck pack" batteries being removed from prime mover, transferred to charge station, replaced with already charged truck pack, all done with a mini fork lift? It's a 15 minute roll in / roll out kind of turn around. The game's not over and the big transport operators (eg: Rio Tinto mine fleets moving a billion tonne per annum, etc) are still doing the R&D pipeline and trialling pilots.

I've seen Tesla's fake robots too. Maybe they can pay people who lost their jobs to DOGE to dress up in Spandex and dance like robots to replace the batteries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsNc4nEX3c4

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Post by Animats »

narrator wrote: post #8
Animats wrote: post #6

Nice. Tesla claims they will "ramp up" production to 50,000 units per year. When does the 100th unit roll off the line? Let's see some actuals. Tesla's volume and delivery time estimates do not have a good history of reliability. Volvo has 5,000 electric semitrucks on the road right now. Tesla also announced that MDB Drayage is using Tesla tractors to haul container chassis around the Port of Los Angeles.[1] But the…

The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

500 miles with what load?

Pepe's Towing, the heavy towing company in LA with a very popular YouTube channel, has two questions for drivers whose trucks need to be recovered or uprighted - "What's your cargo?", and "How much does it weigh?". (Pepe's comments that most drivers who roll over a truck cannot answer either question, which has a lot to do with why they rolled over.)

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

Teever wrote: post #13
aidenn0 wrote: post #9

A 30 minute charge means each charger can service a maximum of 48 tractors per day, and realistically probably less than that. I wonder how many trucks fill at a typical diesel filling station per day.

My first job was pumping gas at regular neighbour gas station and one day a semi rolled in because he was low on gas. He insisted that we use both diesel pumps on the pump so that it would take faster and it still took forever. I can't remember if he filled both side of his truck but if he did that would have required him to go around the island to get the other side tank. I've only been to a cardlock station a few t…

Some Chinese EVs have charge ports on both sides and can be charged faster by using both at the same time.

Not quite as elegant as the new flash chargers that rival the Tesla truck chargers with megawatt speeds but interesting.

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