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Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's incel-speak for dominating someone. "IQ-mogged" would mean that person A was dominated/overshadowed/etc. by person B because person B is very smart. "Height-mogged" would mean the same, but due to height.

That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.

Not to pry, but how old is “old”?

I’m 42, and definitely don’t feel old yet - at least, my mind doesn’t feel old. My body is beginning to show me what’s it going to be like.

I don’t think my generation is nearly as out of touch with youth and niche culture as our parents were. While there are definitely examples of slang that surprise me and for which I’ve not quite nailed down the colloquial usage, it’s extremely rare that I can’t infer the meaning from context.

For that matter, I’ve adopted some of it where it makes sense. “-maxxing” is handy, and conveys more than “optimize for”; I might say I’m “tokenmaxxing” when I’m talking about intentionally using more costly inference than necessary because I’m not the one paying for it and the time necessary to optimize utilization isn’t worth it to me as a result. Basically implicitly recognizing that what I’m doing is ridiculous when viewed from the outside.

The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit”. I get that it usually used as an affirmation of someone else’s statement - but not always. I think its exact semantics are likely still in flux, because I’ve heard it used to mean all kinds of unrelated things depending on tone.

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Thinking about this, I wonder if it’s not a continuation of the same processes that lead to the disappearance of many regional accents. That’s generally accepted to be happening, and caused by the rise of mass media (radio, TV, Internet).

Maybe the Internet (social media in particular) has lumped everyone together in one giant community, and as a result slang no longer has time to solidly meaning in a niche group before reaching the general public.

Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

#62
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.

Nah it kept it's meaning, just spread more. If anything, the level of abstraction grew. "Mogged' used to be a standalone phrase, but now it's always "___mogged".

Before “mogged” was a standalone phrase, it was apparently “AMOG” - “Alpha Male of the Group”.

I don’t remember knowing that before this conversation. I asked Claude for the history of the term, then for primary sources, and manually put the below together to show a history of the term over time:

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Stage 1: “AMOG” == “Alpha male of the group”.

> she is not yet into you and a AMOG upsurps you

September 2003

https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastse...

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Stage 2: “amogged” ~= “dominated”

> He will never AMOG you agian.

August 2005

https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastse...

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Stage 3: “mogged” (transition to a word without the context of the original initialism)

> Once thought invincible the mightly 6'8" 330 pound Martyn Ford is easily mogged upon

May 2016

https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/

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Stage 4: “-mog” (noun), “-mogging” (verb)

> he heightmogs hard

December 2020

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brut...

Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

#63

Maybe im not in the target audience, but i had to look up what mogging is because its not explained anywhere

Although I have the misfortune of knowing what it means, every time I see it some part of my brain assumes it's something to do with cats (via British slang).

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Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

#64
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.

Not to pry, but how old is “old”? I’m 42, and definitely don’t feel old yet - at least, my mind doesn’t feel old. My body is beginning to show me what’s it going to be like. I don’t think my generation is nearly as out of touch with youth and niche culture as our parents were. While there are definitely examples of slang that surprise me and for which I’ve not quite nailed down the colloquial usage, it’s extremely ra…

I'm guessing most people think that "old" is 10-20 years ahead of them, regardless of their age. So someone in their 20s thinks 40 is old, while someone in their 40s thinks 50 is old. Or something like that.

Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.

Not to pry, but how old is “old”? I’m 42, and definitely don’t feel old yet - at least, my mind doesn’t feel old. My body is beginning to show me what’s it going to be like. I don’t think my generation is nearly as out of touch with youth and niche culture as our parents were. While there are definitely examples of slang that surprise me and for which I’ve not quite nailed down the colloquial usage, it’s extremely ra…

> The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit”

It is mostly equivalent to "That's what's up."

Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

#68
post #47

Interesting: "whitehouse.gov cannot be mogged because it resolves or redirects to a private/internal network address."

The first octet of the IP it resolves to is "192", maybe someone implemented the check for private/internal range wrong and is only looking for that.

Re: Show HN: Site Mogging

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to pry, but how old is “old”? I’m 42, and definitely don’t feel old yet - at least, my mind doesn’t feel old. My body is beginning to show me what’s it going to be like. I don’t think my generation is nearly as out of touch with youth and niche culture as our parents were. While there are definitely examples of slang that surprise me and for which I’ve not quite nailed down the colloquial usage, it’s extremely ra…

> The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit” It is mostly equivalent to "That's what's up."

thought that was a synonym for typescript :)
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