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Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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As I play more with Agents like Hermes and Openclaw I've come to realise these truly are the new GUI. I have Radarr and Sonarr running on my homeserver. I switched my model to cloud Claude, pasted the API docs of said apps and told it to make 'search, add, remove, update, and statusupdate' available in a small MCP. It took 7 minutes, I switched back to my local Qwen3.6 model and I haven't touched the webinterface of…

> in stead of relaying requests through me.

Overseerr is a thing.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#62
post #49

I was hoping for an M5 mini and Studio ahead of time, but I guess I'll have to wait a little longer. Maybe by the time they sort it out there will be an M5 Ultra Mac Studio with a full terabyte of RAM.

If I start the application process now I might have my second mortgage approved by the time said 1TB RAM M5 Ultra is available.

You own a house?!

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#63

Apple got so bad with its products, so bad indeed that they took a bet on the low price sector with the Neo and abandoned the powerhouses. It is so funny, because due to the high profit margin as a relative share of the price Apple earns more by selling a few top models than with dozens of Neos. Tim Cook, the supply chain master leaves house the moment the very reason why he got hired in the first place is in dire st…

> so bad indeed that they took a bet on the low price sector with the Neo and abandoned the powerhouses

Says this on a post about the powerhouses all selling like hot cakes, with many months long waiting times.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#65
post #15

It is the SoC, not the memory as reported in the earning call. And lead time for SOC is 3-4 months. i.e even if they decided to increase order in March, if would be at least until July those volumes reaches warehouse ready to be shipped. And that is assuming there are spare capacity from TSMC for Apple to order, right now there is very little to none. What annoys me most isn't the Mac Studio and Mini. It is the Neo.…

It reminds me of when the Mac LC came out. We waited months to receive ours.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#66
post #17

More fomo

Since COVID the FOMO has been turned to 11.

I wanted to build a gaming PC, and now that's out of the question, even though I can afford to buy one in the current state. I just refuse to participate in this, so I quit.

There are thousands of great games that run on older hardware that would last me a lifetime of gaming.

Consumers always get the shit fed to them.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#67

I guess the sudden demand is due to OpenClaw? But most people will still use cloud LLMs, right? Anything particular with the Mac Mini that non-Mac lack?

Not just OpenClaw. The Mac mini is just stupidly good value for a desktop computer, and the RAM prices have only enhanced its appeal. Apple doesn't make much of a fuss about it but their chip performance is laughably ahead of the other chipmakers. The Mac Mini M4 gets a score of 3788 in Geekbench[0]. The top of the PC processor chart is 3395[1]. It's not even Apple's latest chip! PC processors can only keep up by add…

Geekbench is basically trash. People keep using it for comparing Mac performance because many of the things people usually benchmark don't run on Macs.

But single-number outputs like that are useless. Is the number ~10% higher because it's consistently ~10% faster at everything, or because it's 100% faster on a minority of things and slower at everything else? The first one is pretty unlikely when comparing processors with different designs, and indeed that isn't it:

https://www.phoronix.com/review/apple-m4-intel-amd-linux/4

https://www.phoronix.com/review/apple-m4-intel-amd-linux/5

https://www.phoronix.com/review/apple-m4-intel-amd-linux/6

https://www.phoronix.com/review/apple-m4-intel-amd-linux/7

The CPU in those charts with a similar TDP to the M4 is the Ryzen HX 370. You can see that the M4 is ahead of it in a few of the tests (C-Ray, DuckDB, PyBench, FLAC) but in even more of them the M4 is at the bottom of the stack. (Only a third of those charts are actually performance; each performance chart is followed by two power consumption charts.)

And the ~20W TDP is a nice parlor trick (the HX 370 is the only one on the list that competes with it there) but in a desktop CPU that's pretty irrelevant. Whereas if you compare it to the CPUs that can be had for a similar price (e.g. Ryzen 9700X, 65W), it's only ahead in C-Ray and FLAC while losing quite badly in most of the others and subjecting you to unupgradable soldered memory that the PC hardware doesn't.

Meanwhile doing ray tracing on a CPU instead of a GPU isn't much fun, and FLAC is an audio codec so a ~10% improvement there is probably not going to be a big part of your day if you're not a full-time sound engineer. So does averaging those kinds of things in to make a single benchmark number make sense? Or should you be looking at the results on applications you actually use?

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#68
post #58

As I play more with Agents like Hermes and Openclaw I've come to realise these truly are the new GUI. I have Radarr and Sonarr running on my homeserver. I switched my model to cloud Claude, pasted the API docs of said apps and told it to make 'search, add, remove, update, and statusupdate' available in a small MCP. It took 7 minutes, I switched back to my local Qwen3.6 model and I haven't touched the webinterface of…

How are you handling secrets? I want hermes to do stuff on the internet but I am not enthused about dumping the requried keys in .env.local or using process wrapper services like infisical yet. Encapsulating hermes in a docker sandbox feels slippery and I'm always left thinking if i've hardened my server enough.

Openclaw uses the API key for Sonarr / Radarr, no secrets management (yet).

Though egress is heavily restricted for OpenClaw and everything is behind a FW.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#69

As I play more with Agents like Hermes and Openclaw I've come to realise these truly are the new GUI. I have Radarr and Sonarr running on my homeserver. I switched my model to cloud Claude, pasted the API docs of said apps and told it to make 'search, add, remove, update, and statusupdate' available in a small MCP. It took 7 minutes, I switched back to my local Qwen3.6 model and I haven't touched the webinterface of…

> in stead of relaying requests through me. Overseerr is a thing.

1) You're missing the point. Overseer can do this, yes. AI model can work with ANY REST API.

2) How does Overseerr help? I've never really understood it if I could give my family access to Overseerr over a VPN I could just give them sonarr / radarr directly.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#70
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I start the application process now I might have my second mortgage approved by the time said 1TB RAM M5 Ultra is available.

You own a house?!

The second mortgage is to pay for the first mortgage
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