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> People do not trust "Federal Reserve notes" Really? There I was thinking foreign governments liked holding their reserves in US dollars... > that at least some people realize that there is no such a thing like US dollar, only those "notes" printed by Ben Bernanke and his pals Wake up, SHEEPLE!
"foreign governments liked holding their reserves in US dollars" Yes every government has to keep dolar reserve because this is the only currency you can buy oil with. USA managed to force oil suppliers to accept only US dollars. This is the source of the dollar power and enable FED to print as much dollars as they want. People all over the World must purchase dollars.
Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]
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Thank you very much for the direct pdf link, I hate does sites that try to simulate ell established office tools like a pdf viewer in a browser, fail with this and still want to collect your data like email address to give you the real thing. Unfortunately too many people out there are using this crap sites.
Yeah, sorry about that. I submitted the actual link to the pdf, but HN turned it into a scribd link.
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#64Given that Bitcoin records all transactions for posterity, and given the ongoing rise of "big data" analytics, I'd say Bitcoin is likely to be harder , in the long run, to use for shenanigans. A government currency has forms in which transactions create no paper trail. Bitcoin does not. Really the big disruption Bitcoin could cause if it becomes well established, is to act as a stable reference frame against which th…
>Given that Bitcoin records all transactions for posterity, and given the ongoing rise of "big data" analytics, I'd say Bitcoin is likely to be harder, in the long run, to use for shenanigans. A government currency has forms in which transactions create no paper trail. Bitcoin does not. I did some research on anonymity (mentioned in that document); I find it hard to project how private Bitcoin will be in future. Our…
The key would be to begin by considering any address linked to an identity that is you or related to you "dirty," and to be careful about avoiding linkage to any of those dirty addresses. To really be careful I think you'd have to delve into graph theory and data mining a bit yourself, or follow the precautions of someone who knows what they're talking about. You'd also have to take care to pay attention to network addresses under the protocol, using Tor or similar proxying systems and considering any address that's been used from an IP that can be linked to you similarly "dirty." Use of VPSes that accept anonymous payment would also be an option, though again... don't SSH to them from your house! Use Tor or smurf the data around by way of proxies and drop sites and such.
Laundering money would require extreme caution to avoid such contamination, and would present many of the same challenges as money laundering in the fiat currency world. BTC/fiat conversions would be very risky. In-person BTC/fiat conversions are vulnerable to old fashioned gumshoe police work: "hey, that BTC you exchanged on localbitcoin... you happen to remember what that guy looked like?" These are also only feasible for small quantities. Large quantities would present a huge challenge.
What this really means is that Bitcoin is not intrinsically an instrument for villainy as some lazy press articles make it out to be. In fact, criminal use of Bitcoin requires orders of magnitude more technical sophistication, which the vast majority of criminals do not have. A highly educated or sophisticated criminal or intelligence network could surely pull off shenanigans with Bitcoin, but I doubt your average thug or child porn wanker is going to even comprehend the stuff I wrote above. So at the very least, Bitcoin is only a criminal tool for very geeky high-IQ criminals.
Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]
#65What does the "(U/FOUO)" that keeps showing up mean?
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#66Given that Bitcoin records all transactions for posterity, and given the ongoing rise of "big data" analytics, I'd say Bitcoin is likely to be harder , in the long run, to use for shenanigans. A government currency has forms in which transactions create no paper trail. Bitcoin does not. Really the big disruption Bitcoin could cause if it becomes well established, is to act as a stable reference frame against which th…
http://www.dgcmagazine.com/bitcoin-the-european-central-bank...
http://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/other/virtualcurrencyscheme...
Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]
#67What does the "(U/FOUO)" that keeps showing up mean?
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#68Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…
There are two obvious ways in which expanding the money supply can go wrong. 1) Bernake et al. are feckless idiots and will leave the money presses running long after inflation rears its head, a la Zimbabwe, causing hyper inflation and the destruction of the world economy 2) The economy picks up a bit and they stop printing. However, that huge pool of money they have created is enough to drive inflation so high that…
Related, "gold bugs" may have had a good decade but I also believe that gold's value comes from nothing more than tradition: you can't eat it and you can't defend yourself with it.
Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]
#69Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…
> People do not trust "Federal Reserve notes" Really? There I was thinking foreign governments liked holding their reserves in US dollars... > that at least some people realize that there is no such a thing like US dollar, only those "notes" printed by Ben Bernanke and his pals Wake up, SHEEPLE!
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While I am ignorant of the situation in Spain, it is interesting to note that the two other governments detailed in the linked Forbes article have extreme organized crime problems. I am sure this says something about the role of the rule of law in the bootstrapping of trust. Integrating licit and illicit revenue streams will always be a foundational issue for any illegal enterprise. I have not looked deeply into the…
The problem in Spain is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_sector Estimated to be 20% to 25% of GDP compared to an average of 15% to 20% in the neighborhood. Edit: as an extra fact, "we" (I've never seen one) hold most of 500€ bills that have been printed.