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Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

#61

Please add Minecraft hurt sound effects for when my project fails to build, linter fails, segfault, etc

You might be interested in this, it plays villager hurt sounds when your terminal hits errors https://github.com/ProfessionalGriefer/terminal-villager I've had it running for a long time and it's more surprising to me to accidentally here the default ding when I'm away from my home machine.

Indeed, I'm responsible for suggesting https://github.com/ProfessionalGriefer/terminal-villager/pul...

Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

#64

Hi Hacker News, I'm Andrew, the CTO of Endless Toil. Endless Toil is building the emotional observability layer for AI-assisted software development. As engineering teams adopt coding agents, the next challenge is understanding not just what agents produce, but how the codebase feels to work inside. Endless Toil gives developers a real-time signal for complexity, maintainability, and architectural strain by translati…

This sounds like a cheeky joke project, but assuming it's not, it got me thinking: I wonder if coding AI can be effectively and reliably prompted into minimizing its own anguish. Like, "don't write code that is going to make you (or I) suffer." And along those lines, do we know if the things that make AIs suffer are the same things that make human developers suffer? Perhaps the least-agonizing code for an LLM to ingest looks radically different and more/less verbose than what we human developers would see as clean, beautiful code...

Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

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post #9

I need a version of this which swears loudly when an assumption it made turns out to be wrong, with the volume/passion/verbosity correlated with how many tokens it's burned on the incorrect approach.

i didnt realize i needed the volume scaling with tokens burned as much as i do now xD imagine the screaming when it confidently refactors something for 40k tokens and then finds out the thing it deleted was load bearing

This was actually the original idea of the project, but I only had about 20 seconds to type the prompt for this today so this is where it is :)

Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

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post #23

the scan catches surface stuff. funnier signal would be tracking when the agent reads the same file 3 times in a row, or deletes what it just wrote. you can hear the frustration in the access pattern.

That’s a good point, I wonder if just tracking file reads as an app outside the agent would work

Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so what? 6 years in, we're still looking for that flood of new innovative apps and one-man billion dollar startups. Instead we got a flood of sh*t content, embarassing outages and "AI workflows" - which no one can quite describe. Or did you have something else in mind?

You're being over-opinionated for something you don't understand. You should really try these tools out with an open mind. I know you won't take that last bit of advice, so this makes you not worth my time. But I can tell you this - these tools make people productive in ways you aren't understanding.

You're funny mate :) Read a bit through my comments' history. I've been using "these tools" before folks like you even heard of the term LLM. But I guess I am not easily impressed.

Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

#69

Marvelous! Next innovation in this space should be the robotic arm that issues a dope-slap to the developer for writing crappy/buggy/insecure code.

Only if you want the slap to include a free trip to the hospital.

I've worked direct with "collaborative arms" before. They are supposed to be safe for humans to be around. The dents I put in the side of the casing of the arm somewhat said otherwise.

Re: Hear your agent suffer through your code

#70

Hi Hacker News, I'm Andrew, the CTO of Endless Toil. Endless Toil is building the emotional observability layer for AI-assisted software development. As engineering teams adopt coding agents, the next challenge is understanding not just what agents produce, but how the codebase feels to work inside. Endless Toil gives developers a real-time signal for complexity, maintainability, and architectural strain by translati…

"Yes, the binaric screams of the machine spirit are an irreplecable part of this project. The project depends no it. No, I will not elaborate further."
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