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Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by hermitcrab »

kulahan wrote: post #19
poly2it wrote: post #10

> ... reintroduction triggered acute microbiome changes independent of caffeine. This sounds interesting. I've never really considered the constituents of coffee other than caffeine and what unique effects they may bring. I wonder if I would experience behavioral effects if I replaced my coffee intake with caffeinated non-coffee drinks or pills?

Studies seem to indicate that coffee is at least as healthy, if not healthier than tea, and I have not heard this about caffeine specifically (aka the same effects coming from pills or energy drinks). One fun fact: we still haven’t figured out why coffee makes us poop. We’ve studied every chemical in there and can’t seem to find a link, but the association is uh… well-known.

>why coffee makes us poop.

That seems to vary wildly between individuals. It doesn't have that effect on me.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by hermitcrab »

neya wrote: post #2

The only good thing that keeps me from collapsing into a state of limbo is coffee and now, even that's bad (seems more like a mixed bag, but still)? Sigh.

Relax. Tomorrow there will be a paper/article saying coffee is great for you.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by apples_oranges »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #38

After habitually consuming caffeine (not in coffee form) daily, usually multiple times a day, for more than a decade, a horrible mental health incident happened to me that forced me to stop it for a while. Afterwards I didn't resume the habit, and so I no longer have a tolerance. This has let me evaluate what caffeine does with fresh eyes, so to say, because I can now consume it occasionally while having many non-caf…

Agree, I drink it a lot and then stop drinking it at least once a year for a few weeks, and for sure it's a different mode of mind, but can't really qualify it besides that I remember my thinking being softer, calmer and perhaps even "more correct" without coffee.

(But I never had any mental-health incidents, and I drink a lot of it, more than all people that I personally know.)

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by fransje26 »

neya wrote: post #2

The only good thing that keeps me from collapsing into a state of limbo is coffee and now, even that's bad (seems more like a mixed bag, but still)? Sigh.

Did you know:

    By replacing your morning coffee with herbal tea, you can remove up to 87% of the little joy you still have left in your life.  /s
Keep the coffee buddy.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by majkinetor »

pasquinelli wrote: post #57
Lionga wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some tea has caffeine, most has don't.

all tea has caffeine unless it's decaf. some things that aren't tea are called tea casually, but they aren't tea, for instance peppermint "tea" is not tea. by the same logic that one would call peppermint a tea, one would have to call coffee a tea. and beef broth.

That depends on culture. All camelia s. teas have it (green etc) but almost none of common herbal teas in Europe have it (chamomile, menta, sage etc.) They are not called casually teas.

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Post by dotancohen »

ivell wrote: post #47
sixtyj wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1995, NASA did spiders experiment. Caffeine is a siginificant impulsivity trigger. :) https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/nasa-spiders-drugs-experime...

LSD has unconnected strands in the air. I guess this is expected.

The LSD and sleeping pills were not in the original study I believe. That might be an artists representation of the image at the bottom of the original study, which I remember showed the results in a single row.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by alexey-salmin »

fedeb95 wrote: post #55

thirty-one participants were moderate coffee-drinkers (CD, i.e., people that usually consume between 3 to 5 cups of coffee per day). 3-5 is moderate? To me, 3 is already high. Also, sample size is pretty low and they're all Irish.

I do 6-10 espresso cups per day, so 3-5 does sound very moderate.

Re: Habitual coffee intake shapes the microbiome, modifies physiology and cognition

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Post by p4bl0 »

fedeb95 wrote: post #55

thirty-one participants were moderate coffee-drinkers (CD, i.e., people that usually consume between 3 to 5 cups of coffee per day). 3-5 is moderate? To me, 3 is already high. Also, sample size is pretty low and they're all Irish.

I agree. I'm deep into specialty coffee and I love making and drinking coffee a lot, but three cups is already higher than what I drink on a normal day. Also, most of the time when I go above this threshold, I drink decaf.
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