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Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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Good job, David. Have a lollipop. Now learn & write up the proof that the Henstock-Kurzweil integral integrates _every_ derivative. This is what we had in my calculus class on top of the outdated Riemann integral.

That how you got the taste for lollipops?

Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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I've studied the proofs before but there's still something mystical and unintuitive for me about the area under an entire curve being related to the derivative at only two points, especially for wobbly non monotonic functions. I feel similar about the trace of a matrix being equal to the sum of eigenvalues. Probably this means I should sit with it more until it is obvious, but I also kind of like this feeling.

If I tell you I have function f with f(a) = 10 and on it's path from a to b, the graph first increaes by 5 units then by another 10, and then later on drops by 25 units, you can immediately deduce that f(b) = f(a) + (+5 +10 -25) = 0. The fundamental theorem of calculus uses the same concept: To see why \int_a^b f(x) dx = F(b) - F(a) with F'(x) = f(x), we replace f with f' (and hence F with f) and get \int_a^b f'(x) d…

how does this work for these two different paths which arrive at the same endpoint:

+5 +10 +0 -25 = -15

+5 +12 -2 -25 = -15

They have different graphs if you consider the values above sampling points, this is what parent is asking.

Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Henstock-Kurzweil is a neat teaching trick. Often also because it shows that definition of riemann integration is not the only possible one. It leads a good motivation for lebesque later but also to of importance of spaces.

Does it usually get taught in the undergrad maths curriculum?

I wasn’t taught it, but that was forty years ago

Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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> This post introduces the Riemann integral Sweet! I'm keen to learn about the basic fundamentals of calculus! > For each subinterval ...(bunch of cool maths rendering I can't copy and paste because it's all comes out newline delimited on my clipboard) ... and let m k and M k denote the infimum and supremum of f on that subinterval... Okay, guess it wasn't the kind of introduction I had assumed/hoped. Very cool maths…

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Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I tell you I have function f with f(a) = 10 and on it's path from a to b, the graph first increaes by 5 units then by another 10, and then later on drops by 25 units, you can immediately deduce that f(b) = f(a) + (+5 +10 -25) = 0. The fundamental theorem of calculus uses the same concept: To see why \int_a^b f(x) dx = F(b) - F(a) with F'(x) = f(x), we replace f with f' (and hence F with f) and get \int_a^b f'(x) d…

how does this work for these two different paths which arrive at the same endpoint: +5 +10 +0 -25 = -15 +5 +12 -2 -25 = -15 They have different graphs if you consider the values above sampling points, this is what parent is asking.

the derivative becomes a telescoping sum. it doesn't matter how many points you insert or what the values are because x-x=0

let x_i be in (a,b) with any i drawn from [0,N] and x_0=a and x_N=b

then

int_a^b d/dx F = (F(x_1) - F(x_0))+ (F(x_i+1) - F(x_i))+ (F(x_n) - F(x_n-1)) = F(x_N) - F(x_0)

the derivative produces a ratio of differences and the integral is a weighted sum of those same differences

every middle term is added and subtracted. and only the endpoints remain with opposite sign

Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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> This post introduces the Riemann integral Sweet! I'm keen to learn about the basic fundamentals of calculus! > For each subinterval ...(bunch of cool maths rendering I can't copy and paste because it's all comes out newline delimited on my clipboard) ... and let m k and M k denote the infimum and supremum of f on that subinterval... Okay, guess it wasn't the kind of introduction I had assumed/hoped. Very cool maths…

Fundamental here doesn't mean "basic". It means "one of the most important theorems in calculus".

If you want to get into calculus, I strongly recommend you ensure you're adept at algebra.

Re: Fundamental Theorem of Calculus

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> This post introduces the Riemann integral Sweet! I'm keen to learn about the basic fundamentals of calculus! > For each subinterval ...(bunch of cool maths rendering I can't copy and paste because it's all comes out newline delimited on my clipboard) ... and let m k and M k denote the infimum and supremum of f on that subinterval... Okay, guess it wasn't the kind of introduction I had assumed/hoped. Very cool maths…

> if anyone knows of an introduction to the basic fundamentals of calculus that a motivated but under educated maths gronk can grok, I would gratefully appreciate a link or ten. "The basic fundamentals of calculus" usually go under the name "real analysis". You have many options for studying it. MIT OpenCourseWare: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/18-100a-real-analysis-fall-2020/ Free calculus-through-nonstandard-analysis…

If the commenter was struggling with the submission, he likely will struggle with most real analysis textbooks (most of which are terser).
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