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Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

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Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

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PSA: their Github repo history still includes the old, un-castrated codebase, and (IANAL), there's nothing in the license forbidding you from still using it.

Adoption of the OSS version must not have been very high, otherwise I would have expected a Valkey / OpenTofu style, community-led fork.

Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

#63
post #27

As a former cal.com advocate, I am now going to be switching my two companies to cal.diy or a similar alternative and canceling my cal.com subscriptions. I am now actively rooting for cal.com to go out of business now as a cautionary tale for any company thinking about taking open source projects proprietary. FOSS || GTFO

If you are looking for an alternative then please take a look at NeetoCal https://neeto.com/cal . It's closed source though. Disclosure: I'm the CEO of NeetoCal.

Never heard of Neeto. It's a no-brainer (imo).

I perceive and classify your business model as a product optimization race-to-the-bottom model, if it makes sense. Have you considered or are currently working in the Field Service Management (NeetoService) space? Perhaps an ERP (NeetoERP)? Honestly curious because they're both sorely needed.

Thanks again for your AMA-ability. ;)

Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

#64

Wait, I didn't even realize Cal.diy is owned by Cal.com. It seems like they're trying to get ahead of the open source community forking by doing this themselves

How curious. Are they trying to throw security shade on running open source? Very odd.

My guess is that they're hoping they can expose their security bugs and performance issues on the cal.diy and then roll the fixes for those into their paid version. Free development hours for their main product.

Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

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post #27

As a former cal.com advocate, I am now going to be switching my two companies to cal.diy or a similar alternative and canceling my cal.com subscriptions. I am now actively rooting for cal.com to go out of business now as a cautionary tale for any company thinking about taking open source projects proprietary. FOSS || GTFO

If you are looking for an alternative then please take a look at NeetoCal https://neeto.com/cal . It's closed source though. Disclosure: I'm the CEO of NeetoCal.

Closed source software has no value anymore. If I like your UX and it is proprietary, I will just ask an LLM to clone it.

I would only pay for something open knowing I have the freedom to self host if I ever need to.

Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

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post #27

As a former cal.com advocate, I am now going to be switching my two companies to cal.diy or a similar alternative and canceling my cal.com subscriptions. I am now actively rooting for cal.com to go out of business now as a cautionary tale for any company thinking about taking open source projects proprietary. FOSS || GTFO

You might want to double-check the cal.diy maintainer before your wish is granted..

The maintainer of the OSS fork being the company does not matter to me. Their product is proprietary now which means they are no longer worth giving money too.

I only pay for hosted software that gives me the freedom to easily leave and lose no features.

Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

#69
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem really confident that an OSS license would protect them from liability… what is that confidence based on?

It's a straightforward MIT license: https://github.com/calcom/cal.diy/blob/main/LICENSE > IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

Just because a license says you are not liable for anything doesn't mean a court will always uphold that.

Re: Cal.diy: open-source community edition of cal.com

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you want, it’s hard to resist VC money and “the enterprise offering”

Not impossible though, I run a directory of open-source alternatives and rarely do you see what Cal.com did. Projects gets abandoned yes, but a pure bait and switch like this really grinds my gears. This is from someone who is self hosting Cal.com right now and now they are going to strip even more features.

are they actually removing features from the open source version?
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