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Everyone in this thread is bashing on religious causes but cursing was one of the very few obvious social class signifiers in 20th century America, which was part of why it was so harped on by parents and schoolteachers of that era.
NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
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Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
IF YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE EARLY INTERNET MAYBE THIS WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE WHO DISLIKE SWEARING EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY HEAR PROFANITY Now, why they react that way is a lot more complicated... Much like why I and many others find the above almost physically painful. My own personal take is that avoiding swearing in public, like avoiding all caps in the Internet, is a matter of courtesy and respect f…
> Now, why they react that way is a lot more complicated... my comment is entirely about not understanding the why.
You also said, it "just seems absolutely ridiculous".
There are at least two elements to the answer. One is that people are bothered by it the same way they are by anything painful, disgusting, or damaging. I think that part is clear and not in the least "ridiculous", and is what I was trying to address.
The other gets deeper into thought, language, and human interaction than I can address via a couple spare moments and a phone screen.
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're just words . If you want to give those words so much power over you, that's your own problem to deal with. What right do you have to demand the rest of society cater to your particular hangups? When I hear curse words, they elicit exactly the same emotional response as any other word. There's nothing magical or inherently special about them, it's all in your own psychology.
Do you think the same about the n-word?
Yes, don't be such a nagger
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#64> Dr. Larry Poland, president of the non-denominational Miami Bible College, contacted NASA and President Richard Nixon to complain about the profuse profanity from the Apollo 10 crew, demanding they apologize for their behavior. despite my best efforts, i have never been able to understand why or how swear words are inherently offensive. it just does not click with me. a request like this just seems absolutely ridic…
The offensiveness of many comes from the original intention of the word, which was generally some sort of a condemnation of another person (or perhaps sometimes some other taboo). To repeat it is to repeat some of that original intent, at least at times... But I think now a simple "fuck" has all but lost that meaning, and I would say it's not really inherently offensive. And well placed, sparingly used, it can be a good way to extend your range of emotional expression. Well, as long as it's not at cost of everything else.
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#65Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think astronauts are supposed to be "the best of humanity" then you are going to be dissapointed. Astronauts are chosen because they can withstand high G forces and keep cool under pressure. It is very similar to how race car drivers are chosen. No one believes formula 1 drivers are "the best of humanity". And I wouldn't care if astronaut cursed anymore than if a formula 1 driver did.
I'd argue they're precisely the best humannity has to offer for that use case. And even car racers avoid swearing in public.
I think we should cut the astronauts a break. If I can swear while driving to a coffee shop, they should be able to swear when orbiting the moon.
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#67I would't be able to stay polite if I were walking on the f-ing moon.
I was a pilot for many years. It's a profanity laden profession. You don't do difficult and dangerous flying of any kind without a few f-bombs here or there. As is tradition.
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#68Popopo.. NASA this NASA that, they marble photos are quite fake..
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using profanity indicates a weak vocabulary. A lack of discipline. A degree of unrefinement unbecoming of astronauts representing the "best" of humanity and their country. Depending on the type of profanity it can divide societies by reinforcing social schisms/prejudices. Such words typically cluster around areas of cultural discomfort such as religion, sex, and hygiene, causing polarizing emotional reactions. It's b…
If you think astronauts are supposed to be "the best of humanity" then you are going to be dissapointed. Astronauts are chosen because they can withstand high G forces and keep cool under pressure. It is very similar to how race car drivers are chosen. No one believes formula 1 drivers are "the best of humanity". And I wouldn't care if astronaut cursed anymore than if a formula 1 driver did.
That's a moral frame were you belong. In mine, swearing does not preclude someone to be the best human because her swearing.
Re: NASA had to train Apollo 11's astronauts to not use profanity (2019)
#70Growing up I never cursed. As an older teen and young adult I started to around my friends but never in the home around my family. Then I entered the military and very quickly cursing became deeply ingrained in my speech. To the point it was difficult to speak a entire sentence without a curse word. Towards the end I embraced religion heavily and made it a point to cut out cursing entirely. Nowadays I do not curse at…
They're just words . If you want to give those words so much power over you, that's your own problem to deal with. What right do you have to demand the rest of society cater to your particular hangups? When I hear curse words, they elicit exactly the same emotional response as any other word. There's nothing magical or inherently special about them, it's all in your own psychology.
Yes. To quote Lenny Bruce "'to' is a proposition and 'come' is a verb" (this wasn't eveny about cursing back then, you see)