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The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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There is a dead comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47829571 that deserves to be not-dead, and read and understood.

It is AI-generated, which is why it got killed.

How have you determined that? Are you basing it solely on the em-dash (which is trivial to avoid if you want to generate AI comments)?

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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post #4

Both things can be true. AI can help you in the near term and harm you in the long term. I think the more people use AI the more their view shifts from the former to the latter.

I've been thinking the opposite. It sucks to be in the generation of workers that are displaced by AI. It's going to be great to be in the generation where work just isn't something that humans are expected to do.

I really wouldn't want to be in the post-mass-employment era as part of the class with no economic or military power, totally dependent on handouts.

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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post #22

The public was much more likely to say AI would harm them than benefit them. There are so many things called "AI" these days, that studies like this are basically meaningless. I think (hope) most people's views can't be reduced to a single binary question.

Does the fact there are so nany things called fruit these days make "Who likes fruit" a meaningless question?

Yes. If you asked me that question my response would be "what type of fruit?"

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking the opposite. It sucks to be in the generation of workers that are displaced by AI. It's going to be great to be in the generation where work just isn't something that humans are expected to do.

I really wouldn't want to be in the post-mass-employment era as part of the class with no economic or military power, totally dependent on handouts.

Yes because you think of it as a handout. But the generation born into it will think of it as entitlements.

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was always content that wastes people's time because people have always confused length and complexity with comprehensiveness and depth. These were always poor proxy metrics for "good content," but in a lot of environments, especially professional ones, they were how work was evaluated. Naturally others used LLM to generate content that satisfies these metrics. The slop epidemic is a consequence of what people…

But now we're "democratizing" wasting people's time. If the AI-boosters have their way, we won't even be able to have good conversations about something as simple as the movies we saw over the weekend. It will all be "bespoke, AI-generated content ." The conversations will be the equivalent of telling a story about a weird dream you had last night.

The solution was always not to view wasting people's time as proof of effort. But we did, and now AI is replicating it, and the result is this dysfunction.

If we properly valued conciseness over complexity and didn't insist on 5 paragraphs of polite fluff in business communications, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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post #51

Every PC gamer / hardware tech review forum is full of anti-AI hatred. People want to buy a new GPU, add RAM, a new SSD, or hard drive. All of these have doubled or quadrupled in price in just a few months. Then there are reddit threads every day where I think 30% of the original posts and comments are AI generated spam. If I see a post with emdashes or anything that ends by asking for "thoughts?" I just down vote an…

>Then we see posts about AI data centers and electricity use which will lead to higher electric bills for ordinary people if demand is higher than supply. That hasn't really played out in reality. The correlation between datacenter capacity growth and electricity price growth is poor. https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20251101_USC...

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Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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post #51

Every PC gamer / hardware tech review forum is full of anti-AI hatred. People want to buy a new GPU, add RAM, a new SSD, or hard drive. All of these have doubled or quadrupled in price in just a few months. Then there are reddit threads every day where I think 30% of the original posts and comments are AI generated spam. If I see a post with emdashes or anything that ends by asking for "thoughts?" I just down vote an…

>Then we see posts about AI data centers and electricity use which will lead to higher electric bills for ordinary people if demand is higher than supply. That hasn't really played out in reality. The correlation between datacenter capacity growth and electricity price growth is poor. https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20251101_USC...

I think a more detailed look at data from 2024 to 2026 gives you a clearer picture than that graph from the economist. Electricity prices have risen more than 7% since lst year (EIA) https://www.consumerreports.org/data-centers/ai-data-centers...

Scroll down to get to the links to the data sites.

That same Bloomberg analysis found that areas with high concentrations of data centers saw electricity prices jump 267 percent over the past five years.

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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post #7

I wasn't expecting the next culture war to be about AI. In 20 years the thanksgiving dinner fights over AI equality are going to be wild. >I'm not a bigot I support trans rights. But clankers aren't welcome in our share house. >> OK Millennial. I'm a cyborg with 95% of my brain running in a private server.

> I wasn't expecting the next culture war to be about AI.

Why should there be another culture war? Isn't it enough that social media has tuned us against each other on ethnicity, age, political views and a thousand other differences? You want one more? You need another reason to hate your neighbor?

Re: The Uncanny Valley and the Rising Power of Anti-AI Sentiment

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This is a very US centric view in part because of the low confidence in the American government to be able to effectively regulate negative impacts. https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2026-ai-index-report/publi...

I don't think this link supports your claim. All English speaking countries in the "Opinions about AI by country" chart have 60%+ people who are nervous, in every country but Japan at least 40% of people are nervous, and there's no obvious correlation with the "trust in government regulation" data further down.

Why do you think so? Particularly points 8 and 9 in the linked study clearly support yellow_postit's assessment. The 81% trust of Singapore's people in the governments regulation of AI correlates with the overall more positive attitude towards the technology, while all English speaking countries show a relatively low trust in their governments.
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