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SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

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Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

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post #10

A magnet in a coil operates both ways, this is non intuitive but perfectly sound. Not sure if it's mentioned in the article but microphones can be speakers too...

same with solar panels, they can be reversed to emit light.

What’s wild is that most things having to do with light, magnetism, and/or electricity are interchangeable and reversible. Put electricity through a wire and it’ll create a magnetic field, or wave a magnetic field near a wire and it’ll create electricity. That means that putting electricity into an LED creates light and a magnetic field, or putting light into the LED creates electricity and a magnetic field, or waving a magnetic field near it will create electricity in the wires and light from the LED. Granted for that last one you’ll need a spinning magnetar nearby, or just add some more wire to the LED and it becomes a kitchen counter experiment.

Same interchangeability with solar panels, transformers, thermoelectric devices, etc. The effect might be big or small, depending on the setup, but the physics is happening either way.

I’ve spent time lost in space thinking about how much stuff is really just a copper wire in various configurations.

Have a copper wire - it’s an antenna, magnet, inductor, fuse, thermometer, heater, and strain gauge.

Put another copper wire near it - it’s a capacitor.

Curl one more than the other - it’s a transformer.

Put iron on it - it’s a thermocouple.

Put electricity through it - it’s a peltier cooler.

Add salt water - it’s a battery.

Put electricity through it - the iron is now a permanent magnet.

Wave the permanent magnet near it - it’s a generator and a microphone.

Put electricity through it again - it’s a motor and a speaker.

Heat it up and it’ll make Cuprous Oxide - it’s a solar panel and a diode.

Put electricity into it - it’s an LED.

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#63
post #59

A big speaker element is useful for micing kick drums.

It was so popular in studios to use an old Yamaha ns10 speaker as a kick (bass) drum mic that now Yamaha started making and selling an “official” version.

I personally used a toy guitar amp for this purpose https://music.stoyanstefanov.com/2017/03/30/diy-sub-kick-mic...

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#65
post #46

why is jack retasking a thing…

Chips only have a certain number of pins. It probably works out better economically if those pins can be used for either input or output. Chip manufacturers can thus make one product that will fit the needs of more customers instead of (say) 9 different chip variants with 8 inputs and 0 outputs, 7 inputs and 1 output, 6 inputs and 2 outputs, etc.

It could also be useful to the end user. Motherboards have a limited number of ports since the connectors cost money and take up space on the back panel. One user might want a line input (for digitizing old cassettes, for example)[1] and another user might want an extra surround sound output (for 7.1 surround sound instead of just 5.1 surround). With retasking, the motherboard can support both these niche use cases with a single shared port.

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[1] You can't use a microphone input for this because (a) it's mono and (b) it's a different voltage level.

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#66
not only can electromagnet voice coils (speakers or microphones), be used as either a speaker or a microphone (transducer), they can even be used as both at the same time using a DC-coupled circulator / isolator:

https://techlib.com/files/rfdesign3.pdf

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#67
That's all true. As a kid I was watching with sister a children's show in TV. The actor on the screen asked a question followed by silence. My sister yelled the answer at the TV, then the actor said something like "you're right kid". I was flabbergasted.

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#68
As a kid behind the Iron Curtain I had a radio & cassette tape player with a single large speaker built-in. The cassette player had a record button that when pressed together with play used the speaker and I could actually record my voice, and play it back, from the tape. After enough re-recording on a single tape the fade of the old recordings broke through the new ones creating a truly amazing sound experience. Too bad I lost the tapes and the device.

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#69

That's all true. As a kid I was watching with sister a children's show in TV. The actor on the screen asked a question followed by silence. My sister yelled the answer at the TV, then the actor said something like "you're right kid". I was flabbergasted.

Dora the Informer.

Re: SPEAKE(a)R: Turn Speakers to Microphones for Fun and Profit [pdf] (2017)

#70
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if it's mentioned in the article but microphones can be speakers too... Only dynamic mics, which are relatively rare and seldom encountered without an attached preamp. The vast majority of mics for PCs are condensers and electrets. Anything can be a speaker, briefly and only once, if you apply enough voltage to it...

Huh? The standard stage mic, the Shure SM58, certainly is dynamic and has no preamp. But you probsbly think about smaller form mics like found on headsets (Electrets).

Yes. I don't think many PCs would have a stage mic plugged into them.
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