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OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by monkpit »

TehCorwiz wrote: post #43
nradov wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol. The vast majority of content has always been low-quality. Those who believe that things were better before LLMs have selective memory.

The quality hasn't changed. The volume has. It used to take real human time to create garbage. There was value in that. Someone though "Hmm, what worthless thing can I do? I know! I'll make people online mad." And then they spent the time getting someone else's goat. It was great. A good balance, spreading lies took some minimum effort. Now we have automated garbage. And the flavor of the garbage is: gaslighting peop…

> We're letting it though.

It would be nice if “we” had anything to do with it. Just think about the next campaign trail for any superpower, it’s going to be a disaster of fake news and slop coming from all over the globe.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by albedoa »

nradov wrote: post #32
cinkhangin wrote: post #6

I think they are right unintentionally. The growing amount of low-quality content everywhere could become a real problem.

Lol. The vast majority of content has always been low-quality. Those who believe that things were better before LLMs have selective memory.

The comment that you are replying to does not mention a ratio.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

SilverSlash wrote: post #49
DougMerritt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am now just going to go through the (single file) of code and just fix it myself. That's front page news, in this era.

I understand how laughable that sounds when I say it out loud. But the reality is, when I'm in a state of 'Tell LLM what to do, verify, repeat', it's really hard to sometimes break out of that loop and do manual fixes. Maybe the brain has some advanced optimization where once you're in a loop, roughly staying inside that loop has a lower impedance than starting one. Maybe that's why the flow state feels so magical, i…

> Maybe the brain

…is already damaged by reliance on AI.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by onionisafruit »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #2

Had a minor conniption until I saw the year. OpenAI just struggled to close a round. And the New Yorker just published an unflattering profile of Altman [1]. So it would make sense they'd go back to the PR strategy of "stop me from shooting grandma." [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may...

I didn’t notice the year in the headline. My poor meemaw still had a few months of clarity ahead of her, but this headline stole it away from her

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Post by logifail »

SilverSlash wrote: post #49
DougMerritt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am now just going to go through the (single file) of code and just fix it myself. That's front page news, in this era.

I understand how laughable that sounds when I say it out loud. But the reality is, when I'm in a state of 'Tell LLM what to do, verify, repeat', it's really hard to sometimes break out of that loop and do manual fixes. Maybe the brain has some advanced optimization where once you're in a loop, roughly staying inside that loop has a lower impedance than starting one. Maybe that's why the flow state feels so magical, i…

> it's really hard to sometimes break out of that loop and do manual fixes

You're aware of the MIT Media Lab study[0] from last summer regarding LLM usage and eroding critical thinking skills...?

[0] Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task June 2025 DOI:10.48550/arXiv.2506.08872

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by jeswin »

SilverSlash wrote: post #36

Someone needs to make a compilation of all these classic OpenAI moments. Including hits like GPT-2 too dangerous, the 64x64 image model DALL-E too scary, "push the veil of ignorance back", AGI achieved internally, Q*/strawberry is able to solve math and is making OpenAI researchers panic, etc. etc. I use Codex btw, and I really love it. But some of these companies have been so overhyping the capabilities of these mod…

> a very straightforward and basic UI bug

Show us the code, or an obfuscated snippet. A common challenge with coding-agent related posts is that the described experiences have no associated context, and readers have no way of knowing whether it's the model, the task, the company or even the developer.

Nobody learns anything without context, including the poster.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by vaginaphobic »

bertmuthalaly wrote: post #24

Now that I see this in the light of the recent sama article, I wonder whether the point of the "it's too dangerous" rhetoric is to enable "Open" AI to avoid open-sourcing the weights and process. A convenient pretext for maintaining a monetizable competitive advantage while claiming a benevolent purpose.

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Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by jjcm »

This is obviously in response to Mythos, but I'll actually defend their statement at that time - they were right to take a pause.

Think about how much things have changed in our industry since GPT-2 has dropped - it WAS that dangerous, not in itself, but because it was the first that really signaled a change in the field of play. GPT-2 was where the capabilities of these were really proven, up until that point it was a neat research project.

Mythos is similar. It's showing things we haven't seen before. I read the full 250 page whitepaper today (joys of being pseudo-retired, had the hours to do it), and I was blown away. It's capabilities for hacking are unparalleled, but more importantly they've shown that they've made significant improvements in safety for this model just in the last month, and taking more time to make sure it doesn't negatively affect society is a net positive.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Post by nprateem »

johnfn wrote: post #3

Wow! I totally remember reading the bit I'll quote down below back in 2019 and having my mind utterly blown. What a blast from the past. If anything, I think this moment was even more astounding to me than GPT 3.5, 4, etc. > For example, researchers fed the generator the following scenario: > > In a shocking finding, scientist discovered a herd of unicorns living in a remote, previously unexplored valley, in the Ande…

Those classic 4 horned unicorns...
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