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Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

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Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#61

The campaign could not manage launching a web app and they wanted to run the entire USA !?!?!?!

Heck, I remember a Republican candidate who was amazed by the scanner at the supermarket checkout.

Aren't you amazed by the scanner at a supermarket checkout? Omnidirectional laser scanners are a thing of beauty. (Yes I'm serious).

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#62

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Why do you choose to throw out an insult at Windows? Is there anything about this story that points to Windows being at fault? How about you think before you flame next time, okay?

Looks like someone has a bit of an emotional investment on a tool, eh?

Nope, I just strongly dislike tangential and unfounded insults.

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#63
1. They should have hired best UX engineers for the design. 2. Hosted the solution in the cloud and called and made sure the host is aware of the upcoming traffic. 3. Rolled out the application in test mode at least a week before so that staff can do trail runs. 4. Worry less about hacking and made it easy to login (just via an ID) ~ me being Captain Hindsight.

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#64
post #44

Orca had been conceived by two men—Romney's Director of Voter Contact Dan Centinello and the campaign's Political Director Rich Beeson... To build Orca, the Romney campaign turned to Microsoft and an unnamed application consulting firm. This sounds like a lot of failed IT projects in large corporations -- dreamed up by upper management types who don't know anything about tech, then farmed out to consultants and tech…

A cynic would say that this is just the software consulting version of what management consultants like Romney do.

Yes and no.

On one hand, management consultants are typically working with the executives of a company, and usually one of those executives will have been a former consultant (the executive boardrooms of companies are filled with them). Not to mention that both consultants and executives usually have the same set of "skills."

On the other hand, one former management consultant I spoke to told me that executives would often hire consultants to tell them what they already knew. The only purpose of bringing the consultants on-board was so that their recommendations would serve as political validation in case they had to explain their decision (i.e. if they failed).

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#65

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Using Windows was a mistake, that's for sure. Good thing for Democrats they didn't know about the open source ushahidi platform.

You can fail on any platform with bad implementation and/or bad management and/or bad planning. That's the lesson here. (and at Twitter when they fail whaled for months on end with Rails - it wasn't Rails fault - it was the application of Rails in too high a volume deployment)

False equivocation BS.

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#66

Orca had been conceived by two men—Romney's Director of Voter Contact Dan Centinello and the campaign's Political Director Rich Beeson... To build Orca, the Romney campaign turned to Microsoft and an unnamed application consulting firm. This sounds like a lot of failed IT projects in large corporations -- dreamed up by upper management types who don't know anything about tech, then farmed out to consultants and tech…

And yet, despite this disaster,

    Mitt Romney’s campaign handed out more than $200,000
    in bonuses last month to senior staffers, according
    to new disclosure records filed Thursday.

    Richard Beeson, Romney’s national political director,
    received a $37,500 payment on Aug. 31 in addition to his
    salary, according to records filed with the Federal
    Election Commission.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09...

When I first heard about this, I remarked to a friend "what the hell are they doing giving out bonuses? The bonus should be that your candidate gets elected!"

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#67
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A cynic would say that this is just the software consulting version of what management consultants like Romney do.

Yes and no. On one hand, management consultants are typically working with the executives of a company, and usually one of those executives will have been a former consultant (the executive boardrooms of companies are filled with them). Not to mention that both consultants and executives usually have the same set of "skills." On the other hand, one former management consultant I spoke to told me that executives would…

Sadly it's not only management consultants doing that one: there's a certain proportion of the engineering-consulting business that consists of management calling in someone with an engineering degree to give a PowerPoint presentation to validate a point or provide political cover for a decision. I don't have any experience in that myself, but more than one of my friends are in jobs like that, which pay well but don't seem to produce much job satisfaction.

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#68
post #40

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Indeed. Particularly in contract to the Obama machine, which was built by passionate technologies motivated mostly to help Obama win, not make money.

Interestingly, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina said they built something similar in 2008, and it crashed too. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/messina-obama-won-on-the-...

For all the praise Obama’s team won in 2008 for its high-tech wizardry, its success masked a huge weakness: too many databases. Back then, volunteers making phone calls through the Obama website were working off lists that differed from the lists used by callers in the campaign office. Get-out-the-vote lists were never reconciled with fundraising lists. It was like the FBI and the CIA before 9/11: the two camps never shared data. “We analyzed very early that the problem in Democratic politics was you had databases all over the place,” said one of the officials. “None of them talked to each other.” So over the first 18 months, the campaign started over, creating a single massive system that could merge the information collected from pollsters, fundraisers, field workers and consumer databases as well as social-media and mobile contacts with the main Democratic voter files in the swing states.

http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world...

Sounds like they spent quite a bit of time and money on that. Nice article, by the way, though it's obviously a bit of a puff piece.

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#69

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This kind of false equivocation is dishonest and intellectually lazy.

I disagree. His point is very valid.

His use of "mistakes" is a verbal fallacy called equivocation. Not all mistakes are the same.

wikipedia: Equivocation ("to call by the same name") is classified as both a formal and informal logical fallacy. It is the misleading use of a term with more than one meaning or sense

Re: Inside Team Romney’s whale of an IT meltdown

#70

Orca had been conceived by two men—Romney's Director of Voter Contact Dan Centinello and the campaign's Political Director Rich Beeson... To build Orca, the Romney campaign turned to Microsoft and an unnamed application consulting firm. This sounds like a lot of failed IT projects in large corporations -- dreamed up by upper management types who don't know anything about tech, then farmed out to consultants and tech…

And yet, despite this disaster, Mitt Romney’s campaign handed out more than $200,000 in bonuses last month to senior staffers, according to new disclosure records filed Thursday. Richard Beeson, Romney’s national political director, received a $37,500 payment on Aug. 31 in addition to his salary, according to records filed with the Federal Election Commission. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012…

Wow, I thought the bonuses he gave out at the convention for winning the nomination made sense. I wonder what last month's were for, "winning" the debates?
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