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OkCupid gave 3M dating-app photos to facial recognition firm, FTC says

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Re: OkCupid gave 3M dating-app photos to facial recognition firm, FTC says

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I have long wondered about the market size for privacy-focused apps. Sure, plenty of people don't know or don't care to value that, but if there are enough, maybe you could have a whole set of apps that emphasize they are not seeking world domination or selling out to the highest bidder, and a major selling point for using them would be that they are not . Am I too idealistic? If such apps are not aggressively seekin…

> I have long wondered about the market size for privacy-focused apps. The real problem is how to trust that a "privacy-focused" app is actually privacy-focused. You certainly can't take the publisher's word for it. The only safe stance is to withhold as much personal information from as much software and services as possible.

If a company wanted to, they absolutely could include something along the lines of "If we violate the terms of this privacy policy, we owe all affected users $1000" in their Terms of Service. Pointing a gun at their own head to prove that they're serious. Companies don't do this, because they are cowards.

Re: OkCupid gave 3M dating-app photos to facial recognition firm, FTC says

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Oh man… all across Chicago, lawyers are popping champagne right now. [0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_Information_Privacy_...

"The Act prescribes $1,000 per violation, and $5,000 per violation if the violation is intentional or reckless."

Per violation. Wow.

Re: OkCupid gave 3M dating-app photos to facial recognition firm, FTC says

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In a free market the company that makes every cent they can has a survival advantage. Enough time and transactions and the market will be made entirely of survivors. The rest will have been out-competed.

One counter-pressure is regulation. But hey the US has a fetish about deregulation and so here we are.

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At this point, nearly every online service should be considered hostile. If they can make a small amount of money by compromising your privacy or your identity, they will. If they can make a small amount of money by stealing your attention and addicting you, they will. Are there exceptions? I'm sure. Will I be erring sometimes by being cautious? Definitely. But, there is really not much of an alternative these days.

This sort of stuff continues to ramp up as everyone rushes to train LLMs while governments are pushing for ID verification that would make it impossible to use the web (or even one's own computer) anonymously. It's a very dark time for anyone who cares whatsoever about privacy or digital sovereignty.

Nonsense, I have it on good authority that the old internet sans LLM surveillance capitalism is still alive and well. You just stopped going there.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47589055

Re: OkCupid gave 3M dating-app photos to facial recognition firm, FTC says

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At this point, nearly every online service should be considered hostile. If they can make a small amount of money by compromising your privacy or your identity, they will. If they can make a small amount of money by stealing your attention and addicting you, they will. Are there exceptions? I'm sure. Will I be erring sometimes by being cautious? Definitely. But, there is really not much of an alternative these days.

I have long wondered about the market size for privacy-focused apps. Sure, plenty of people don't know or don't care to value that, but if there are enough, maybe you could have a whole set of apps that emphasize they are not seeking world domination or selling out to the highest bidder, and a major selling point for using them would be that they are not . Am I too idealistic? If such apps are not aggressively seekin…

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Re: OkCupid gave 3M dating-app photos to facial recognition firm, FTC says

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I’ve never posted information anywhere off a machine that I control unless I’m comfortable with it being sold or made public. Reduces anxiety.

That's great if you live like it's still the 90s.

So the answer is to go back to the 80s and not have social software at all?
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