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Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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Page 7 [0] of the report seems to indicate that FGM reconstruction actually seems to have negative outcomes post-surgery. I'm surprised by this. I'm also shocked to see how prolific FGM is too (230 million women?!). [0]: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.18.712572v1...

Male genital mutilation is very common

And it is an order of magnitude more common for boys than for girls. And it’s legal to genitally mutilate boys in every single country on the planet.

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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Respectfully, this article is not about the male experience, it's okay to talk about women without putting men in the story.

To someone who is shocked at the prevalence of female genital mutilation in other cultures, the widespread acceptance of other types of genital mutilation in (probably) their own culture is an important piece of context, I'd say.

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Male genital mutilation is very common

Respectfully, this article is not about the male experience, it's okay to talk about women without putting men in the story.

This is a bad take. If society takes genital mutilation of children seriously, and it gets outlawed in more and more countries, it helps save ALL children from genital mutilation. Only a shortsighted person would see it as a zero sum.

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Dumb question, why do “sensitive” spots on the body need more nerves? Couldn’t you just have the normal touch-sensing nerves and map signals from specific spots on the body to stronger/pleasurable qualia in the brain?

Not a dumb question. The shortest (and at a glance unsatisfactory) answer is because it works, and therefore it evolved that way. Going in detail, first consider that for a feature to be evolutionarily selected for two things have to be true: 1. It must increase the fitness of the organism that carries it, i.e. the likelihood of its carrier having descendants as compared to non-carriers ( or be a side effect of anoth…

Nice post. Just this bit:

> Our hacky solution for the blind spot? Let the brain hide it in software.

I would say the solution is just having two eyes, since their respective blind spots don't overlap in the visual field.

I would also say that the brain doesn't hide the blind spots, but rather doesn't pay any attention to them in the first place. There's just a lack of information from them, and this deficit isn't normally noticeable because the other eye makes up for it. I think Dennett explains it that way somewhere, probably in Consciousness Explained

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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That 4chan pretends its Hacker News thread still lives in my head. I still remember "Show HN: Clitly, my app for finding the Clitoris".

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/48696148

Thanks! It must have been the r/programming parody thread I was thinking of as I couldn't find the reference here.

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, this article is not about the male experience, it's okay to talk about women without putting men in the story.

This is a bad take. If society takes genital mutilation of children seriously, and it gets outlawed in more and more countries, it helps save ALL children from genital mutilation. Only a shortsighted person would see it as a zero sum.

Is it? Did "all lives matter" help prevent police brutality? Or was it an attempt at whataboutism so you don't have to do anything?

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The meme is that before [insert your contemporary period] people were so backwards that they would miss something like the clitoris entirely. The meme isn't that people and cultures were prejudiced or biased, but that they were prejudiced in an idiotic way. If you believe that's how prejudice works, then you'll be utterly blind to much contemporary prejudice. EDIT: Relatedly, The Guardian article sites the statistics…

> an act that lacks any negative connotations If you can imagine that forced genital mutilation without anesthetics lacks negative connotations, as long as it's "for her eventual pleasure". Good Lord.

I don't particularly agree with the OP but from my European pov, male circumcision doesn't seem to have negative connotations, certainly not in the US.

Negative connotations and actual negativity are two separate things. Alcohol tends not to have negative connotations whereas things that are better for your health and less addictive, cannabis, magic mushrooms, have negative connotations.

Re: Full network of clitoral nerves mapped out for first time

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Page 7 [0] of the report seems to indicate that FGM reconstruction actually seems to have negative outcomes post-surgery. I'm surprised by this. I'm also shocked to see how prolific FGM is too (230 million women?!). [0]: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.18.712572v1...

Male genital mutilation is very common

presumably you are referring to circumcision, which has recognized benefits.

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> the clitoris did not even make it into standard anatomy textbooks until the 38th edition of Gray’s Anatomy was published in 1995. This seemed surprising, as it hews too close to an annoying meme in feminism and history generally, that people in prior eras were idiots. And it turns out to be wrong. The clitoris was in Gray's Anatomy until 1947, when it was removed by the editor Charles Goss for the 25th edition. See…

Being removed for versions 25 to 38… honestly confirms the feminist narrative of some people being idiots, though. Like, imagine documentation on object oriented programming being removed because it offended some functional programming folks.

There is obviously truth to it but it does not confirm the whig interpretation i.e. it was supposedly _removed_ rather than never present

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bad take. If society takes genital mutilation of children seriously, and it gets outlawed in more and more countries, it helps save ALL children from genital mutilation. Only a shortsighted person would see it as a zero sum.

Is it? Did "all lives matter" help prevent police brutality? Or was it an attempt at whataboutism so you don't have to do anything?

There wasn't really an all lives matter on the same sense as the black lives matter movement.

Plus there's 'all lives matter' as in the proponent doesn't want to do anything, and 'all lives matter' as in police brutality is bad no matter who it's aimed at, and should be stopped completely.

The latter more closely mirrors the parents example.

Further I would say your example is flawed. BLM assumed a level of racism that I don't think there is. This isn't a case of KKK members wanting to get the s out of the country and back where 'they belong' it's more an issue of laziness and profiling. That isn't to say it isn't racism, but just talking about racism allows police that aren't KKK members to tell themselves they aren't the problem. Focussing on the issues of laziness etc means they do actually need to face up to the issues.

The same thing with genital mutilation, this isn't simply a case of something that happens to girls in a far away land, this is happening to kids right now in the west. Focusing on FGM kind of misses the point.

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